War Thunder Wiki - User contributions [en]

Leopard 2A7HU

2024-08-17T17:24:16Z

U15260543: pros and cons about the 2A7HU

{{About
| about = Hungarian MBT '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Leopard 2 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=it_leopard_2a7_hungary
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Hungarian medium tank {{Battle-rating}} in the Italian research tree. It was introduced in [[Update "Seek & Destroy"]] as part of the Hungarian branch of the Italian tech tree.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || ___ mm || ___ mm ''Top'' ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
|-
| Turret || ___ - ___ mm ''Turret front'' ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
|-
| Cupola || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.''

{{tankMobility|abMinHp=2032|rbMinHp=1327|AoAweight=}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Rh120 L/55 A1 (120 mm)}}

''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Rh120 L/55 A1 (120 mm)|120 mm Rh120 L/55 A1]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 37 || rowspan="2" | -9°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 38.1 || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 7.8 || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 23.8 || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:Rh120 L/55 A1 (120 mm)/Ammunition|DM12A1, DM33, DM11, DM53}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''37''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|MG3A1 (7.62 mm)}}

''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle
| 800 (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[MG3A1 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm MG3A1]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial
| 4400 (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Marvelous penetration with the DM53 round
* Upgraded armour making the tank hard to kill from the front
* Excellent reverse and forward speed
* Has access to Gen 3 thermals for the commander and gunner unlike previous Leopards
* Perfect gun handling for an MBT: 40°/s for both turret rotation and gun elevation speed (with ace crew) and -9°/+20° maximum vertical guidance
* Access to a top mounted .50 cal machine gun
* Access to HE-TF round that can deal with lightly armoured targets
* Access to spall liners that increase survivability
* Quite survivable tank with a lot of space between each modules and crew members

'''Cons:'''

* The turret armour can be shot off making the tank more vulnerable
* Turret ring and mantlet are still a huge weak spot, despite the added armour
* 12.7 turret is quite large. Makes the tank easier to spot and kill with large caliber HE
* Engine deck prevents from lowering the gun enough towards the back
* Mine protection adds a lot of weight and decrease the mobility compared to a standard Leopard 2A7V

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==


* [[Leopard 2A7V]] - Original 2A7V in the German tech tree

== External links ==


* [[wikipedia:Leopard_2#Leopard_2A7|[Wikipedia] Leopard 2 - Leopard 2A7]]

{{Italy medium tanks}}

USS Cyclone

2023-03-22T11:01:36Z

U15260543: /* Pros and cons */ Added more pros and cons about the Cyclone

{{Specs-Card
|code=us_cyclone_class_cyclone
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American motor gun boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}

''Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armaments separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Save tips on preserving survivability for the "Usage in battles" section. If necessary, use a graphical template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}

''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.''

{{NavalMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|25-mm/87 mk.38 (25 mm)}}

The 25mm/87 Mk.38 is a navalized copy of the ground 25mm M242 cannon (mounted on M3 Bradley) in term of the gun performance and ammo characteristics, though the naval version has its ammo belt slightly re-adjusted with pure HEI-T and APDS belts as researchable modifications. Notice that in naval battles, ADPS doesn't create secondary shatters (the spalling in ground battles); it's a pure kinetic-damage ammo. The gun fires at 3 round per second and overheats in 17 seconds. In naval scenarios, APDS is the only option for Cyclone. The self-destroying property of HEI-T renders this type of bullet almost completely useless because boats at this tier and BR often carry punchy 40 mm and above autocannons and fight beyond 2 km.

* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|HEI-T*|High-explosive incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APDS|Armour-piercing discarding sabot}}
* '''25 mm HEIT belts:''' {{Annotation|HEI-T*|High-explosive incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}
* '''25 mm APDS belts:''' {{Annotation|APDS|Armour-piercing discarding sabot}}

{{:25-mm/87 mk.38 (25 mm)/Ammunition|HEI-T*, APDS}}

=== Secondary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}

{{main|AN-M2 (12.7 mm)}}

There are a pair of 12.7 mm AN-M2 machine guns each mounted on one side of the ship's bridge. Each machine gun only covers a sector less than a quadrant.

* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|API-T|M20 armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|M2 armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|I|M1 incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|M2 armour-piercing}}
* '''.50 AP belt:''' {{Annotation|API-T|M20 armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|M2 armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|M2 armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|M2 armour-piercing}}
* '''.50 APIT belt:''' {{Annotation|API-T|M20 armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|API-T|M20 armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|API-T|M20 armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|I|M1 incendiary}}

{{:AN-M2 (12.7 mm)/Ammunition|AP, I, API-T}}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

''The USS Cyclone is a quick vessel fitted with guns that can do short work of most coastal ships you'll encounter. She must stay in the coastal area hunting for them, using her good top steep to her advantage. Howerver you must stay away from the Frigates and Destroyers you can encounter at this br. The 25mm guns are indeed, very powerful agains't patrol boats, but they are lacking punch and can hardly significant damages to bigger targets and in addition to that, the USS Cyclone can hardly whitstand a hit from a high caliber round. Try to engage big vessels while they are already engaged by somebody esle or heavily damage without over exposing yourself.''

'''Pros:'''

* Very survivable agains't low caliber rounds
* APDS has enough penetration to damage other armoured boats, such as MPK.161, HMS Peacock, or M-802
* 25mm guns are decent agains't low flying aircraft
* Decent top speed and mobility
* Decent ship to hunt coastal boats
* Has access to a radar system
* APDS rounds have decent velocity and easy to aim even agains't air targets.

'''Cons:'''

* Large profile
* Guns overheat quickly
* Main guns lacks punch agains't frigates and bigger ships
* High caliber machine-gun are pretty much useless, they have limited fire arc and arn't very effective even agains't small PT boats.
* Can't sustain hits from high caliber guns (102mm and above)
* Can't track targets with her radar

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=us_cyclone_class_cyclone Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

== See also ==

''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{ShipManufacturer Bollinger Shipyards}}
{{USA boats}}

USS Des Moines

2023-03-22T10:47:02Z

U15260543: /* Pros and cons */ Added pros and cons about the vessel

{{Specs-Card
|code=us_cruiser_des_moines_class
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|StoreImage_{{PAGENAME}}_002.jpg}}
|store=12049
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American heavy cruiser {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Sky Guardians"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}

''Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armaments separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Save tips on preserving survivability for the "Usage in battles" section. If necessary, use a graphical template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}

''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.''

{{NavalMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|8 inch/55 Mark 16 (203 mm)}}

''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''

{{:8 inch/55 Mark 16 (203 mm)/Ammunition|8 inch Mk.14 Common, 8 inch Mk.21 APCBC, 8 inch Mk.25 HC, 8 inch Mk.17 SP Common}}

=== Secondary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}

{{main|5 inch/38 Mk.12 (127 mm)}}

''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.''

{{:5 inch/38 Mk.12 (127 mm)/Ammunition|5 inch AAC Mk.34, 5 inch AAVT Mk.31, 5 inch SP Common Mk.46}}

=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-AA}}

{{main|3 inch Mk.33 (76 mm)|20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mark V (20 mm)}}

''An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control <code>Select anti-aircraft weapons</code>. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.''

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

* Adequate speed, on par with the rest of the american ships of this level.
* Decent main firepower with an excellent fire rate if 10 rounds per minute.
* Has access to a traking radar.
* Powerful Auxiliary and AA defense with decent range and effective agains't both aircraft and light naval targets.
* A total of 1799 crew members which allows for a decent survivability.
* Ammo stowages are located below the waterline.
* Decent ammo variety for both the 8 inch and 5 inch guns including HE-VT, HE and AP type rounds.
* Overall armor is fine.

*

'''Cons:'''

* Large and long vessel, quite easy to hit espescially with torpedoes.
* No torpedo protection.
* Don't have access to a scout plane

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/8107-development-pre-order-uss-ca-134-des-moines-1948-heavy-cruiser-en|[Devblog] Pre-order: USS CA-134 Des Moines 1948 heavy cruiser]]

{{USA heavy cruisers}}
{{USA premium ships}}

Challenger 2 TES

2023-03-20T20:52:29Z

U15260543: /* Pros and cons */ modified the pros and cons, adding something about the roof mounted mg

{{About
| about = British medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Challenger 2 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=uk_challenger_2_tes
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The Challenger 2 TES has the armour that would be expected of the name (TES - Theatre Entry Standard). The tank has been updated to meet the modern theatres of war, including streetfighting and more effective chemical munitions and kinetic weapons. The ERA on the sides displays this exact line of thought. In-game, the combined ERA and composite screen add ~240 mm of effective protection against shaped charges and about 46 mm protection against KE rounds at 0 degrees.

Equipped with the iconic jammer plate mounted to the roof, this tank will be easy to spot and identify, so one should take care to cover their weak points with extra care, as many will know where the weaknesses are, and feel pressured to shoot them due to the increased armour elsewhere. The tank retains the same weakspots: the gun mantlet, driver's port, and the lower frontal plate, though unlike the [[Challenger 2 (2F)]] you get the LFP composite block (and the rest of the add-on) stock, which does help with the chemical protection. The gun breech will most likely block spalling from any penetrating round, allowing TES players to retreat and repair their breech, should they be far enough away from danger.

When opposing enemy tanks, commanders should attempt to angle their tank slightly, as the side add-on will be more effective against HEAT-FS and ATGMs (so long as they don't have tandem charge warheads), though this won't prevent any darts you meet from going through - M735 and DM23 can make it through 3 ERA blocks and still have enough energy to take out the engine. Angling has the added bonus of making the driver's port less effective as a means of knocking out the tank's crew.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 38-50 mm (56-83°) ''Upper plate'' 70 mm (31-34°) ''Lower glacis'' 60 mm (0-80°) ''Driver's port'' || 25 mm (70°) Top 25 mm ''Middle'' 38 mm ''Bottom'' || 25 mm (32°) || 10-20 mm
|-
| Turret || 38 - 50 mm (56-82°) ''Turret front'' 30 mm (3-82°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 20-25 mm (8-10°) || 20 mm (18°) || 10-38 mm
|-
| Cupola || 8 mm (3-78°) || 8 mm (9-60°) || 8 mm (1-80°) || 44-60 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* ''Upper front plate'' has additional 6.35 mm external structural steel plate.
* ''Lower front plate'' has additional composite with NERA elements, which is very effective against chemical munitions.
* Tracks and suspension wheels are 20 mm thick.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Composite armour
! Frontal effective protection !! Sides
|-
| Hull || '''Upper''' Kinetic: 420-700 mm Chemical: 800-1100 mm '''Lower''' Kinetic: 100-270 mm Chemical: 130-800 mm || '''Ext. Composite Screen with ERA:''' Kinetic: 90-120 mm Chemical: 560-680 mm
|-
| Turret || '''Turret Cheeks''' Kinetic: 440-720 mm Chemical: 780-1000 mm || '''Internal Composite''' Kinetic: 190 mm Chemical: 324 mm '''External NERA''': Kinetic: 15 mm Chemical: 280 mm
|-
|}

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

The mobility of the TES is poor, even by Challenger 2 standards. The drastic increase in weight over the [[Challenger 2 (2F)]] makes the already below average power-to-weight ratio even worse, and getting the add-on stock ironically makes the situation worse: other Challenger 2s allow you to go for mobility upgrades before the add-on packages, making mobility through the stock grind more bearable as you decide when the extra weight is added, whereas with the TES you start out at 75t and 1076 hp. Even with all the mobility upgrades, the TES is slow to turn and slow to accelerate, and on some dirt roads it may struggle to reach 25 km/h. The neutral steering is unaffected by the increase in weight, completing a 360 traverse in the same amount of time as a 62.5t Challenger 2 (~14.5s).

{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1886|rbMinHp=1076}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|L30A1 (120 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[L30A1 (120 mm)|120 mm L30A1]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 50 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 29.5 || 40.8 || 49.6 || 54.8 || 58.4 || rowspan="2" | 6.50 || rowspan="2" | 5.75 || rowspan="2" | 5.30 || rowspan="2" | 5.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 18.4 || 21.7 || 26.4 || 29.1 || 31.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:L30A1 (120 mm)/Ammunition|Shot L23A1, L34, Shell L31A7, L26, L27A1}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_Challenger_2.png|right|thumb|x350px|[[Ammo racks]] of the Challenger 2]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! Ammo part
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
|-
| '''50''' ||''Projectiles'' ''Propellants'' || 48 ''(+2)'' 45 ''(+5)'' || 45 ''(+5)'' 39 ''(+11)'' || 43 ''(+7)'' 31 ''(+19)'' || 41 ''(+9)'' 22 ''(+28)''
|-
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! 7th rack empty
! 8th rack empty
! 9th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| 34 ''(+16)'' 14 ''(+36)'' || 29 ''(+21)'' 5 ''(+45)'' || 5 ''(+45)'' 1 ''(+49)'' || 4 ''(+46)'' N/A || 1 ''(+49)'' N/A || No
|-
|}
'''Notes''':

* Projectile racks 8 and 9, and propellant rack 7, are first-stage ammo racks.
* Hull front empty: 39 ''(+11)'' shells.
{{Clear}}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L94A1 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm L37A2]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 1,700 (100) || 650 || -10°/+50° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[L94A1 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm L94A1]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 4,000 (2,000) || 600 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

With the Challenger 2 TES, the addon armour protection comes as standard and leaves the vehicle more protected than the base Challenger 2. However, this add-on armour has the downside of making the TES rather sluggish at accelerating and turning.

As with all the Challenger 2's, the ideal playstyle is to be at long range, utilising hull down positions to protect the hull and use the gunners thermal sight and laser range finder to return fire with good effectiveness. The TES retains the option of carrying smoke or HESH shells. Smoke can be used to fire at enemy positions to obscure their view while either the TES is repositioned or teammates are advancing. HESH can be used against light vehicles to overpressure them in situations where getting a killing blow with APFSDS would be difficult.

Where close range combat is required, ensure that the hull remains protected as much as possible by using terrain features. Take the time to ensure that when pushing into a location that it is clear of threats, as pushing round corners of buildings will leave the hull exposed without the chance to return fire.

Brawling is an option, however, the TES is rather sluggish and will not last long against fast or experienced opponents when the range is very short. Try to get the enemy to shoot the turret cheeks, as shots to the hull or gun breech will render the TES combat ineffective. Using the Challenger 2's impressive reload will give the TES an upper hand in brawls, as if both the Challenger and the opponent fire at the same time, the Challenger will typically reload first.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Impressive chemical protection on the front and sides
* Maintains the kinetic protection from previous variants, with improvements in places
* Very accurate L30A1 120 mm gun
* Fast reload
* Roof mounted machine gun has access to thermal and can be used as a CITV

'''Cons:'''

* No composite plates behind the ERA panels on the turret sides
* Heaviest MBT in the game with a very poor hp/ton ratio; very poor acceleration
* Same ammunition options as the previous Challengers
* Maintains the same weak spots from previous variants
* L27A1 has low penetration compared to other top rank NATO ammunition
* ERA is useless against tandem-charge warheads
* Cannot maintain the short reload time after the first-stage ammo rack (4 rounds) has been depleted

== History ==

A modification of the British Challenger 2 main battle tank with Dorchester Level 2 armour set has been used by the British Army in the operation in Iraq since 2002. At the end of 2004, these tanks were additionally equipped with combined turret side shields, as well as grilles covering rear parts of the hull and turret for protection against shape-charged anti-tank weapons - this configuration received the designation Dorchester Level 2F (DL2F). The next modernization, also aimed at improving the protection, took place in 2008. The tanks received hull skirts made of combined armour, NERA blocks on the hull sides were replaced with ERA containers manufactured by the Israeli company Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Limited. This variant of the Challenger 2 was designated TES (Theatre Entry Standard).

''- From [[wt:en/news/7438-development-challenger-2-tes-a-new-perspective-en|Devblog]]''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=uk_challenger_2_tes Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|LufGqZTfvoI|'''MBTs with Best Armor''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 03:52 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7438-development-challenger-2-tes-a-new-perspective-en|[Devblog] Challenger 2 TES: a new perspective]]

{{Britain medium tanks}}

Ariete AMV

2023-03-20T20:43:11Z

U15260543: /* Pros and cons */ Added some others pros and cons and the use in battle

{{About
| about = Italian medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Ariete (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=it_ariete_amv_pt1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Sky Guardians"]]. The C1 Ariete AMV PT1 is the final main battle tank that is available to research in the Italian ground forces tech tree. The C1 Ariete was developed by OTO Melara during the late Cold War to allow the Italian army to equip itself with a modern tank which could easily deal with Yugoslav and Warsaw Pact tanks. The AMV PT1 is a further development of the C1 Ariete, it being the first prototype of the AMV program which aims to upgrade several features to improve the tank and extend its life. The PT1 specifically features mobility improvements which allows the tank to be on par in terms of mobility with the rest of the top-tier MBTs. This Italian MBT is one of the staple tanks that you can add to your lineup, as a tier 1 mod you get access to the CL3143 APFSDS round which will greatly help you when grinding the vehicle. It's a great MBT when used by players who can work around its weaknesses, keep in mind that unlike the previous Ariete you don't have access to the WAR add-on armour kit.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret, internal plates)
* High-hardness rolled armour (hull UFP, turret front)
* Composite armour (turret front)
* Spaced armour (hull UFP, gun mantlet, turret sides)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || Spaced Armour ''Upper glacis'' 50 mm (50°) ''Lower glacis'' 35 mm (60°) ''Sponson front''|| 10-20 mm ''Top'' 35 mm ''Bottom'' || 20 mm || 35 mm ''Crew compartment'' 20 mm ''Engine compartment'' 5 mm ''Exhaust radiators''
|-
| Turret || Composite armour ''Turret front'' Spaced armour + 90 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || Spaced armour || 20 mm + 10 mm || 40 mm ''Front portion'' 20 mm ''Rear portion''
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.''

{{tankMobility|abMinHp=2,032|rbMinHp=1,327}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|OTO Breda 120/44 (120 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[OTO Breda 120/44 (120 mm)|120 mm OTO Breda 120/44]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 42 || rowspan="2" | -9°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 38.1 || 52.7 || 64.0 || 70.8 || 75.3 || rowspan="2" | 7.80 || rowspan="2" | 6.90 || rowspan="2" | 6.36 || rowspan="2" | 6.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 23.8 || 28.0 || 34.0 || 37.6 || 40.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:OTO Breda 120/44 (120 mm)/Ammunition|DM12A1, CL3143, DM53}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_Ariete_(P).png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''42''' || 16 ''(+26)'' || 1 ''(+41)'' || No
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Beretta MG42/59]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 4,600 (200) || 801 || - || -
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''The C1 Ariete AMV can be played in different roles. It can be played as a sniper due to it's decent APFSDS rounds, good thermal and laser rangefinder, however you must not over expose yourself since the armor of the tank cannot whitstand any hit from any top tier rounds, even some chemical projectile can penetrate the amor of the Ariete, even in the turret. Due to it's improved mobility and very powerful round the Ariete fits perfectly in the "glass gun" role, flanking the enemy and hitting them from the side. However the Ariete cannot be used as a brawler since, as previously mentionned, it's armor isn't great, and it's rounds arn't protected by any kind of blowout pannels which means that any penetrating rounds will result if a one shot.''

To sum up, the Ariete is very good at long range and as a glass gun but you have to keep in mind that you can not rely on your armor at all.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* The CL3143 APFSDS round is a tier 1 modification
* Decent forward mobility, even better than previous Ariete due to mobility upgrade
* The commander has access to thermal sights, and both gunner and commander thermals are Gen 2 (higher resolution)
* Outstanding gun handling characteristics
* Quick and responsive reverse
* Fairly decent and reactive mobility at medium to high speeds
* Quick neutral steering
* DM53, combined with great thermals and a laser rangefinder make for an exceptionally deadly sniper
* Unlike other NATO MBTs, there is no ammo rack in the turret bustle: a penetration in the turret rarely destroys the tank in one shot

'''Cons:'''

* Mediocre overall armor protection even agains't chemical projectiles
* Unprotected ammo stowages
* Placement of crew members and first stage ammo rack make hits to the hull fatal
* The DM53 APFSDS round is a tier 4 modification
* Does not have access to PSO or War kit armour package
* Russian tanks, protected by explosive reactive armour, can at times directly withstand DM53
* Lacks roof mounted machine gun from the previous C1s, pretty embarrassing dealing with low flying aircraft.

== History ==

The history of the C1 Ariete begins during the late stages of the Cold War, with a program born out of the need of the Italian army to modernize the fleet of tanks they had during the Cold War, which were the Leopards and M60s. Those tanks would be considered obsolete, considering the fact that many countries around the world who adopted such designs had either put them out of service or replaced them for something more modern. To make the new Italian MBT, Italy put Iveco and OTO Melara in charge. Iveco dealt with the hull, transmission, and engine, while OTO Melara took care of the turret, cannon, and the installation of optical sights. After many changes, and a couple of wooden mock-ups, the C1 Ariete (P), would first be shown to the public, at a presentation inside of La Spezia in 1987. Development kept on continuing towards the year of 1990, which allowed both Iveco and OTO Melara to refine the C1 Ariete's design. Deliveries were scheduled to first take place in 1993, however due to some setbacks (likely funding) it wouldn't be until 1995 that the first C1 Ariete production deliveries actually took place. At first an order of 300 tanks would be made, but due to the Cold War coming to an end, it was reduced to only 200 units, which would all finally be delivered on 7th August 2002.

The tank would feature a set of improvements from previous designs, for example the first C1 Ariete production models had access to the TURMS 3rd generation LTFCS made by Officine Galileo, which gave the capability to the Ariete to fire on the move, both during the day and at night. However later down the line, the last 50 Arietes would receive an upgrade of their sights, which resulted in many improvements, such as allowing the C1 Ariete commanders to have access to thermal imaging. In terms of armaments, the C1 Ariete (P) and C1 Ariete Production had access to a 120 mm smoothbore gun, made by OTO Melara, with similarities to the German made L44. The cannon would be suited to fire the majority of NATO standard munitions. Another improvement included better protection compared to the previous vehicles, it would be one of the more vital aspects of the Ariete. The tank would be delivered up until the early 2000s when the Ariete would begin to be the only official tank in service, while the Leopards and M60s would be fully phased out and put in storage.

Since then however, the Ariete has had quite the bumpy ride when it came to upgrading the machine; the Italian army was not against upgrading it, but there was a common issue that would plague the development: costs. The first proposed upgrade for the C1 Ariete would be what is known as the "C2 Ariete". After the tank had finished being designed, many nations at the time already had better vehicles in service, for example Germany would already have the Leopard 2A5. The C2 Ariete would have featured a lot of improvements, which included new updated armour, an autoloader, new engine, and also new updated FCS. However this never ended up happening and as such the C2 Ariete would remain only a proposal on paper. Another potential upgrade for the C1 Ariete, the C1 Ariete Hitfact Mk2, was likely not even considered by the Italian army but it would still feature a set of advancements that technically speaking would make it still a better machine than the production vehicles, such as the new cannon and optics.

'''AMV upgrade'''

The C1 Ariete AMV, standing for "Ammodernamento di Mezza Vita" (English: "Mid Life Update"), is likely to be the final upgrade to the C1 Ariete. This upgrade was conceptualised many years ago but it's only in recent times that progress has been seen with such a program. The AMV program will attempt to extend the life of the C1 Ariete up until 2030/2035, where by then it is presumed that a new design will take over. The AMV program will feature 3 prototypes at first, the AMV PT1, which will feature improvements to the hull, the PT2 which will feature improvements to the hull and turret, and finally the PT3 which will incorporate improvements to both the turret and hull whilst also likely being used to test hard-kill APS.

The improvements in the Ariete AMV PT1 are as follows: increase in power from 1,250 to 1,500 horsepower, sadly this was not obtained with the installation of a new engine, but instead with the application of an upgrade kit on the current engines that the C1 Ariete utilize, which were completely disassembled and rebuilt with the constitution of numerous new elements, most of which derive from the V8 of the B2 Centauro II. One of the other ways it's better protected is thanks to the installation of the Anti-IED/Mine kit. The crankcase is also the same, but the displacement has been increased from 26 to 30 litres by changing cylinders, pistons, and crankshaft, increasing the stroke of the cylinders. In order to better receive and manage the greater power offered by the improved engine, called V12AMV for now, changes would also be made on the automatic gearbox produced under license from the German ZF, this provided the necessary calculations for the changes necessary to receive the greatest torque and its distribution. Among that, the PT1 will feature improvements to the breaking system, the adoption of a new track known as the DST 570 P0 (the current Arietes use the DST 840 E0). The DST 570 P0 is 20% wider than the previous tracks, it allows the tank to have a smaller footprint and makes it much easier to overcome soft terrain. Suspensions and shock absorbers have not been replaced, but only overhauled. Tests of the PT1 have been done at the "Centro Polifunzionale di Sperimentazione Mobile" (CEPOLISPE). The PT1 was also given the production WAR+PSO add-on armour kit, which all AMV prototypes have also received. In the future, once testing of all AMV prototypes has been concluded, they will all be brought to C2 Ariete standard.

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* [[Ariete]]
* [[Ariete PSO]]
* [[Ariete (P)]]

== External links ==


* http://avioblog.it/sono-iniziati-nel-sito-delle-i-di-montelibretti-rm-i-test-del-primo-prototipo-dellm-b-t-ariete-amv/
* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/546276-c1-ariete-amv-pt1/

{{Italy medium tanks}}

MKPz M47 G

2021-08-17T14:37:01Z

U15260543: /* Pros and cons */ smoke grenades, co-axial MG, reverse speed and LFP

{{About
| about = German medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = M47 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=germ_mkpz_m47
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} German medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.71 "New E.R.A."]] as a purchasable pack, but was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6263-shop-war-thunder-summer-sale-en|2019 Summer sales]]. It was later reintroduced as an in-game premium purchasable for 8,200 {{ge}}.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || ___ mm || ___ mm ''Top'' ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
|-
| Turret || ___ - ___ mm ''Turret front'' ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
|-
| Cupola || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 1,255|rbMinHp= 716}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M36 (90 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M36 (90 mm)|90 mm M36]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 71 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+19° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 34.3 || 47.4 || 57.6 || 63.7 || 67.8 || rowspan="2" | 9.75 || rowspan="2" | 8.63 || rowspan="2" | 7.95 || rowspan="2" | 7.50
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 21.4 || 25.2 || 30.6 || 33.8 || 36.0
|-
|}

=== Ammunition ===
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M318A1 shot || APBC || 193 || 190 || 177 || 162 || 148 || 136
|-
| M82 shot || APCBC || 185 || 182 || 170 || 155 || 142 || 130
|-
| M304 shot || APCR || 287 || 281 || 259 || 234 || 211 || 191
|-
| M332 shot || APCR || 321 || 316 || 292 || 265 || 240 || 218
|-
| M431 shell || HEATFS || 320 || 320 || 320 || 320 || 320 || 320
|-
| M71A1 shell || HE || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M318A1 shot || APBC || 912 || 10.98 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| M82 shot || APCBC || 853 || 10.94 || 1.2 || 14 || 137.2 || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| M304 shot || APCR || 1,021 || 7.62 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
|-
| M332 shot || APCR || 1,249 || 5.7 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
|-
| M431 shell || HEATFS || 1,216 || 5.8 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 712.64 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| M71A1 shell || HE || 732 || 10.55 || 0 || 0.1 || 925 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke shell characteristics
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity (m/s)
! Projectile Mass (kg)
! Screen radius (m)
! Screen deploy time (s)
! Screen hold time (s)
! Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
|-
| M313 || 821 || 10.7 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 50
|-
|}

=== [[Ammo racks]] ===
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''71''' || 42 ''(+29)'' || 12 ''(+59)'' || 10 ''(+61)'' || 7 ''(+64)'' || 1 ''(+70)'' || No
|-
|}
Notes:

* As they are modeled by sets of 2, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire both shells in the set.
* Racks 3, 4 and 5 are first stage ammo racks. They total 11 shells and get filled first when loading up the tank.
* These racks are also emptied early: the rack depletion order at full capacity is: 3 - 4 - 5 - 1 - 2.
* When refilling from racks 1 and 2, the refill order of ready racks is 5 - 4 - 3.

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 2,200 (200) || 576 || N/A || N/A
|-
| Pintle || 1,000 (200) || 576 || -10°/+30° || ±180°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The {{PAGENAME}} tank is great for rushing the capture points in Realistic battles. Once there, fall back a little and find a good place for surveying the battlefield while looking for targets to snipe using your great HEAT rounds.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Very good turret - most of shots will either bounce or non-pen it
* The hull can't be penetrated by most of the tanks it faces; only a few tanks with high calibre cannons can penetrate it
* Very fast turret rotation, even faster than some rank VII MBTs
* Very potent gun with access to a variety of shells to use in any situation
* Gun depression of -10° is usually sufficient
* Very good speed and turning ability
* Roof mounted 12.7 mm machine gun as well as a co-axial one. Pretty useful agains't airplanes and lightly armoured vehicles
* Very good acceleration
* Decent reverse speed (-19 Km/h)
* Have access to smoke grenades unlike the american, italian and japanese M47

'''Cons:'''

* The hull machine gun port and the armour plates around it are deadly weak spots
* LFP can't stop a lot of rounds at it's br

== History ==

===Development===
The '''M47 Patton''' came about only a few years after its predecessor, the [[M46|M46 Patton]]. The basis of this design was the [[M26|M26 Pershing]], which was deemed insufficiently mobile for its role as a medium tank. The M46 was mainly the M26 Pershing with a new engine, transmission, and a redesigned 90 mm gun. While a good solution for the lacking M26 Pershing design, it was only considered a stopgap solution while the experimental ''T42 medium tank'' was being developed. However, the Korean War put a stop in that development due to an urgent need of tanks, so the T42 project, which would produce a completely new tank design, was put on hold.

An interim decision was made to mount the turret from the T42 onto the hull of the M46 Patton, this modified tank was designated the '''M47 Patton''' and entered production in 1951. A common nickname for the tank was the ''Patton II'', due to the same name as the M46 Patton, this was changed to ''Patton 47'' a few weeks later. The M47 Patton featured most of the armament seen from the M26 Pershing and M46 Patton, with a 90 mm gun and a coaxial and hull-mounted .30 cal machine gun, and a .50 cal machine gun on top of the turret. The M47 Patton has the distinction of being the last American tank with the hull-mounted machine gun on the bow. The new turret required the hull to be redesigned with a larger turret ring and had a "needle-nose" design with the turret mantlet heavily sloped towards the cannon, the design's heavy sloping nature also helped improve protection. The turret also had a large protrusion at the back to act as storage. An M12 stereoscopic range finder was also mounted on a turret, which was difficult to use, but would appear in every American tank design from here on until the M1 Abrams design.

Though technically a medium tank by the army standards, a new standardization in US Army tank designation on November 9, 1950, had the entire system changed from the weight of the tank to the calibre of the vehicle's gun. Therefore in the 1950s, the "Medium Tank M47 Patton" name was changed to '''90 mm Gun Tank M47 Patton'''. This designation would go on for future American tank designs. The M47 Patton began production in June 1951 before its standardization at the Detroit Tank Arsenal. Delays in the production schedule caused a long period of testing to occur until it was standardized in May 1952. Production ran until November 1953 with a total production number of more than 9,000 M47 Pattons between Detroit and Alco.

===German usage===
The rebuilding Bundeswehr of West Germany became one of the largest receivers of American M47 tanks, receiving up to 1,120 M47 tanks in the 1950s alongside [[M48A2_C|M48s]].<ref name="ZalogaM47&48 pg(1)">Zaloga 1999, p.13</ref> However, it was widely recognized in both America and Germany that the M47s quality was of an interim design, and so its replacement by more modern designs was sought out.<ref name="JerchelLeopardI Loc(1)">Jerchel 1995, Loc 17 of 813</ref> This was done by phasing them out with the deliveries of more M48 tanks,<ref name="ZalogaM47&48 pg(1)" /> as well as the production of the new [[Leopard I]] tanks in 1965.<ref name="JerchelLeopardI Loc(2)">Jerchel 1995, Loc 105 of 813</ref>

The phased out German M47 tanks was most notably given out to Turkey, making up a portion of the total 1,347 M47 tanks it received from both Germany and America. These M47s in Turkish service would be involved in the 1974 invasion of Cyprus in ''Operation Attila''.<ref name="ZalogaM47&48 pg(2)">Zaloga 1999, p.38</ref>

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?q=%23mkpzm47 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|Xwid3UCLr5U|'''The Patton Family''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 4:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''}}

== See also ==


;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis

* [[M47]]
* [[M47 (105/55)]]

;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

* [[M46]]
* [[M46 "Tiger"]]

== External links ==


;References:
<references />

;Bibliography:

* Jerchel, Michael. ''Leopard 1 Main Battle Tank 1965-95''. Osprey Publishing Ltd., 1995
* Zaloga, Steven J. ''The M47 and M48 Patton Tanks''. Osprey Publishing Ltd., 1999

{{Germany medium tanks}}
{{Germany premium ground vehicles}}

Mi-24V

2021-02-17T17:24:17Z

U15260543: /* Pros and cons */ Added pros and cons about the Mi-24V

{{About
| about = Russian attack helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other uses
| link = Mi-24 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=mi_24v
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
|cockpit=cockpit_mi_24v.jpg
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}
''Describe how the helicopter behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}
''Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|YaK-B (12.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 12.7 mm YaK-B machine gun (1,470 rpg)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|OFAB-250sv (250 kg)|FAB-500M-54 (500 kg)|GSh-23-2 (23 mm)}}
{{main|9M114 Shturm|R-60|R-60M|S-8KO|S-24}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 80 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 4 x S-24 rockets
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 80 x S-8KO rockets
* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
* 4 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons
* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x S-24 rockets
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total)
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 2 x R-60 missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x R-60 missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x R-60 missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x R-60 missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 2 x R-60M missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x R-60M missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x R-60M missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x R-60M missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in a helicopter, the features of using the helicopter in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Very strong helicopter, it can survive multiple hits.
* One of the fastest helicopter in the game.
* Large payload options.
* Can be equiped with IRCM, Flares (192 flares) and HIRSS.
* Can carry 4 R-60M AAM with 30G of overload wich is really effective to deal with airplanes.
* Can carry 4 deadly S-24 rockets
* The Yak-B machine gun is effective agains't enemy aircrafts and lightly armored targets, it is feeded by 1470 rounds.
* Can carry up to 8 Shturm AGM.

*

'''Cons:'''

* Big helicopter meaning it's a big target.
* Heavy helicopter, bad maneuvrability.
* R-60 arn't fitted with ECCM so they might be deflected by flares.
* Yak-B is ineffective agains't heavily armored targets.
* Don't have access to thermal vision.
* Shturm AGM are not laser guided.

*

== History ==

Work on the Mi-24 began in the early 1960s, with engineers at the Mil design bureau coming to the realisation that helicopters capable of both transporting troops and materiel as well as being able to provide fire support are gaining ever-increasing importance with new combat doctrines focusing on battlefield mobility. The Mi-24V is a further development of the Mi-24, that entered production in 1976. The V modification most notably introduced the 9M114 "Shturm" guided missiles to the Hind's arsenal, which in turn significantly increased its hit probabilities and destructive power. In its decade-long production (1976 - 1984), around 1,000 Mi-24Vs were produced, eventually becoming the most produced version of the Hind.

''- From [[wt:en/news/5709-development-mi-24-and-ah-1f-rotorcraft-icons-en|Devblog]]''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=helicopter&vehicleClass=attack_helicopter&vehicle=mi_24v Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
<gallery mode="packed" heights="200">
File:Mi-24V WTWallpaper 001.jpg
File:Mi-24V WTWallpaper 002.jpg
File:Mi-24V WTWallpaper 003.jpg
File:Mi-24V WTWallpaper 004.jpg
</gallery>

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|lTR8bhL4BUc|'''The Mi-24 Family''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 4:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|6QZAY1EtkFU|'''The Shooting Range #110''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 10:26 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the helicopter;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/5709-development-mi-24-and-ah-1f-rotorcraft-icons-en|[Devblog] Mi-24 and AH-1F: Rotorcraft Icons]]

{{AirManufacturer Mil}}
{{USSR helicopters}}
[[Category:Countermeasures]]

EC-665 Tiger HAP

2021-02-16T19:51:32Z

U15260543: /* Pros and cons */ Pros and cons about the Tiger HAP as well as the usage in battle

{{Specs-Card
|code=tiger_hap_france
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} French attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]]. It was removed from the store after the [[wt:en/news/6924-shop-war-thunder-birthday-sale-in-gaijin-net-store-en|8th Anniversary Sale]], and was reintroduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]] as a Golden Eagle {{ge}} purchasable vehicle.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}
''Describe how the helicopter behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}
''Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|GIAT M781 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm GIAT M781 cannon (750 rpg)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|HOT-3|Mistral|SNEB type 23|TDA}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 44 x TDA rockets + 24 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 8 x HOT-3 missiles
* 8 x HOT-3 missiles + 24 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 4 x Mistral missiles
* 4 x Mistral missiles + 44 x TDA rockets
* 4 x Mistral missiles + 8 x HOT-3 missiles
* 2 x Mistral missiles + 8 x HOT-3 missiles + 12 x SNEB type 23 rockets

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in a helicopter, the features of using the helicopter in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

'''In helicopter enduring confrontation :'''

The Tiger HAP is a decent helicopter for close range air to air engagement with other helicopters. The main canon is really effective agains't enemy aircrafts and the 4 Mistrals AAM it can carry are useful agains't enemy helicopters. However some helicopters you might face such as Ka-50 and 52 with their Vikhr AGM, AH Mk.1 with it's Starstreak AGM, EC-665 Tiger UHT with it's PARS AGM can be hard to fight because of their better long range habilities because the Tiger HAP don't have decent long range weapons.

The best way to face them is to use the terrain and the decent agility of the Tiger HAP to sneak down until you reach the enemy helicopter to engage it in close range. The Ka-50 and 52 as well as the AH Mk.1 are less effective at close range because they are less agile than the Tiger, The Tiger UHT is as agile as the Tiger HAP, but the UHT don't have access to a canon.

The Tiger HAP can also be usefull for ground striking. Indeed the main gun is pretty decent to deal with lighlty armored targets, the TDA rockets and the HOT-3 AGM are good enough to deal with stronger targets.

The Tiger HAP can be used for ambushing enemy helicopters, using it's agility to sneak down behind a mountain range or a canyon. Or it can be used for ground striking.

'''In Simulator and ground realistic battles :'''

The Tiger HAP can be used for surprise rocket attacks by flying low to avoid enemy SPAAGs radars. It can also help the team dealing with heavy armored targets with it's powerful HOT-3 AGM, however this will expose the Tiger to the enemy radars.

The Tiger HAP can also be used for hunting the enemy helicopters by sneaking down until you come close to the enemy helipad.

However the Tiger HAP is vulnerable to enemy fighters attack because it's Mistral air to air missiles can only pull 12G wich is not enough to deal with fast jet fighters. If there is an enemy jet fighter you might use the terrain at your adventage to fly low and hide.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Decent agility compared to it's counterparts.
* Pretty fast helicopter.
* Decent crew protection.
* The main gun have a good rate of fire and is effective agains't air targets
* Can carry up to 8 HOT-3 AGM wich can pen up to 1.250 mm of armor.
* Can carry up to 68 powerful TDA Rockets.
* Have access to Mistral AAM fitted with ECCM.
* Have access to Missile Approach Warning system, thermal vision and flares (60 of them).

*

'''Cons:'''

* The fuselage is rather fragile.
* Mistral AAM are not effective agains't jet fighters anf fast flying aircrafts.
* The main canon lacks of penetration to deal with armored targets.
* HOT-3 AGM are very slow (only 240 m/s) and don't have a lot of range (4.30 km).
* Lack of radar.

*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Images
<gallery mode="packed" heights="200">
File:Eurocopter Tiger HAP WTWallpaper 001.jpg
File:Eurocopter Tiger HAP WTWallpaper 002.jpg
</gallery>

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the helicopter;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6338-development-eurocopter-tiger-pouncing-on-the-prey-en|[Development] Eurocopter Tiger: Pouncing on the Prey]]

{{AirManufacturer Eurocopter}}
{{France helicopters}}

Mi-28N

2021-02-16T11:22:47Z

U15260543: /* Pros and cons */ Added pros and cons about the Mi-28N Havoc

{{Specs-Card
|code=mi_28n
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.93 "Shark Attack"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}
''Describe how the helicopter behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 280 || 267 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || 300
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}
''Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|2A42 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 30 mm 2A42 cannon, chin turret (450 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm 2A42 cannon, chin turret (450 rpg) + 128 x Flares

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|9M39 Igla|9M120M Ataka|S-8KO|S-13DF|GSh-23-2 (23 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 80 x S-8KO rockets
* 20 x S-13DF rockets
* 8 x 9M120M Ataka missiles
* 8 x 9M120M Ataka missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 8 x 9M120M Ataka missiles + 10 x S-13DF rockets
* 16 x 9M120M Ataka missiles
* 16 x 9M120M Ataka missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 16 x 9M120M Ataka missiles + 10 x S-13DF rockets
* 8 x 9M39 Igla missiles
* 8 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 8 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 10 x S-13DF rockets
* 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons (250 rpg = 500 total)
* 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 10 x S-13DF rockets
* 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 8 x 9M120M Ataka missiles
* 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 16 x 9M120M Ataka missiles
* 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 8 x 9M39 Igla missiles
* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 8 x 9M120M Ataka missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 8 x 9M120M Ataka missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons
* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 8 x 9M120M Ataka missiles + 10 x S-13DF rockets

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in a helicopter, the features of using the helicopter in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Pretty strong attack helicopter compared to other attack helicopters of it's rank.
* Can carry a big amount of ATGM (up to 16 Ataka ATGM) wich can penetrate up to 950mm of armor.
* Can carry a big amount of AAM (up to 8 Igla AAM) Igla AAM have ECCM wich means they can't be defflected by flares.
* Can be fitted with powerful anti-tank S-13DF rockets.
* Very effective canon (the same gun equiped on the Ka-50/52 and BMP-2) that can shoot APDS rounds.
* Pretty fast helicopter compared to it's counterparts.
* It is fitted with flares (huge amount of flares, up to 128 flares), thermal vision and missile approach warning system.
* Huge payload options

*

'''Cons:'''

* The Mi-28N is a really heavy helicopter, less manoeuvrable than it's counterparts.
* Only 250 rounds for the main gun.
* Need to remove some half of the ATGMs or all the ATGMs to carry AAM.
* Igla AAM only have 10G of maximum overload wich is ok for engaging enemy helicopters but not enough to engage jet fighters.
* Huge helicopter meaning it's a big target.
* Missing a radar.

*

== History ==

Following the introduction into service of the Mil Mi-24 ''Hind'', design work began on an optimised attack helicopter with reduced secondary transport capacities, intended for a primary anti-armour and anti-helicopter role as well as providing aerial cover for helicopter landings. Following a number of proposed concepts, a preliminary design was chosen in 1977. Following the construction of a mock-up, a prototype was constructed and first flew on November 10th 1982, with a second prototype completed in 1983. Trials of the Mi-28 began in 1984, but the type lost out to the Kamov Ka-50. Despite this, lower priority development of the Mi-28 continued and production of the Mi-28 was approved in December of 1987. In January of 1988, the first prototype Mi-28A flew, fitted with more powerful engines and a different model of tail rotor; this prototype was first shown to the Western world at the 1989 Paris Air Show. In 1991 a second prototype of the Mi-28A flew, but with the end of the Cold War, the end of the Soviet Union and ensuing cuts in the Defence budget, the Mi-28A was re-evaluated and found superior to the Ka-50, especially due to it lacking all-weather capabilities. As such, the Ka-50A was cancelled in 1993.

The Mi-28N was first presented in 1995 and first flew on November 14th 1996. Unlike the preceding Mi-28A, the Mi-28N was fitted with a whole array of vision aids, such as radar, a gun camera and forward-looking infrared (FLIR), giving it an all-weather capability. Once again, the post-Cold War realities in the Russian Federation meant that funds were not available and the program was given a low priority.

This changed in 2000 when attention was given to re-equipping the Russian Army. The Mi-28N was given a new priority, as a future replacement of the Mi-24. In 2004, a second prototype with an altered main rotor design was flown, and after trials, the first production Mi-28N was accepted by the Russian military on June 5th 2006, with the type being declared operational in October 2009. An export model, the Mi-28NE, has since been sold to both Iraq and Algeria. An updated model, the Mi-28NM, was first flown in 2016, with the first production examples delivered to the Russian military in June of 2019.

== Media ==


;Images
<gallery mode="packed" heights="200">
File:Mi-28N WTWallpaper 001.jpg
File:Mi-28N WTWallpaper 002.jpg
File:Mi-28N WTWallpaper 003.jpg
File:Mi-28N WTWallpaper 004.jpg
File:Mi-28N WTWallpaper 005.jpg
File:Mi-28N WTWallpaper 006.jpg
File:Mi-28N WTWallpaper 007.jpg
File:Mi-28N WTWallpaper 008.jpg
</gallery>

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|bxalaBFUfb8|'''The Shooting Range #174''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:32 discusses the Mi-28N.}}

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the helicopter;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6436-development-mi-28n-incoming-havoc-en|[Development] Mi-28N - Incoming Havoc]]

{{AirManufacturer Mil}}
{{USSR helicopters}}