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Su-25K

2022-11-14T07:41:31Z

U133931396: /* Usage in battles */

{{About
| about = premium Soviet strike aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the regular version
| link = Su-25
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=su_25k
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|StoreImage_{{PAGENAME}}_004.jpg}}
|store=11444
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 968 || 961 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 27.4 || 28.0 || 66.8 || 62.4 || rowspan="2" | 850
|-
! Upgraded
| 989 || 978 || 26.6 || 27.0 || 94.2 || 79.4
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || X || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| 1,100  || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 900 || N/A || 420 || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | UMPO R-95SH || 2
| colspan="2" | 10,236 kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m<sup>2</sup>
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Max Gross<br>Weight|Mass of the fully equipped aircraft with heaviest weapons load}}
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 29m fuel
|-
| 990 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
| 11,106 kg || 12,210 kg || 13,136 kg || 17,678 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 29m fuel || MGW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 3,526 kgf || N/A
| 0.63 || 0.58 || 0.54 || 0.40
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 3,608 kgf<br>(200 km/h) || N/A
| 0.65 || 0.59 || 0.55 || 0.41
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

The Su-25K is known for its survivability, anecdotally being able to take a few missile hits without suffering any damage compromising its airworthiness, though this ability is inconsistent and should not be relied upon. The airframe is able to sustain rear hits from missiles with a small warhead, especially the FIM-92 Stinger. Occasionally the Su-25K is able to sustain continued hits from Stingers and Roland 1s.

128 flares/chaff launched two of each at a time provide the Su-25K with the chance to evade missiles, which should be the primary form of defense. A lack of afterburner increases flare effectiveness, only very modern missiles such as aim-9L are able to track the aircraft from behind. Chaff only defends against radar locks from behind the aircraft.

The aircraft remains decently controllable upon loss of tail control, wingtips, or an engine. The aircraft remains near-fully controllable upon loss of the rudder and occasionally can fly without the vertical stabilizer.

The fuel tanks are self-sealing and the aircraft has an engine fire extinguishing system. A single section of fuel tank is protected by 18 mm of steel.

The cockpit is very well armoured. The pilot is protected on the front and sides by 24 mm of titanium alloy, the bottom and rear of the pilot is covered by 10 mm of titanium alloy. Additionally there is 57 mm thick bulletproof glass in the front of the cockpit.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|GSh-30-2 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 30 mm GSh-30-2 cannon, chin-mounted (250 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm GSh-30-2 cannon + 128 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|OFAB-100 (100 kg)|OFAB-250sv (250 kg)|FAB-500M-62 (500 kg)|ZB-500 incendiary|GSh-23L (23 mm)}}
{{main|Kh-25|Kh-25ML|Kh-29L|S-25L|R-60MK}}
{{main|S-5K|S-8KO|S-13OF|S-24B}}
{{main|S-25O|S-25OF|S-25OFM}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:

* Without load
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 32 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (3,200 kg total)
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 8 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 8 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (4,000 kg total)
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 8 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 256 x S-5K rockets
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 160 x S-8KO rockets
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 40 x S-13OF rockets
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 8 x S-24B rockets
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 8 x S-25O rockets
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 4 x Kh-25ML missiles
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 2 x Kh-29L missiles
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons + 120 x S-8KO rockets
* 2 x R-60MK missiles + 4 x S-25O rockets + 4 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (2,000 kg total)

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! !! width="4%" | 1 !! width="4%" | 2 !! width="4%" | 3 !! width="4%" | 4 !! width="4%" | 5 !! width="4%" | 6 !! width="4%" | 7 !! width="4%" | 8 !! width="4%" | 9 !! width="4%" | 10
| rowspan="19" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_Su-25.png]]</div>
|-
! 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg)
| || || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || || ||
|-
! 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs
| || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 ||
|-
! 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! ZB-500 incendiary bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! S-5K rockets
| || 32 || 32 || 32 || 32 || 32 || 32 || 32 || 32 ||
|-
! S-8KO rockets
| || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20 || 20 ||
|-
! S-13OF rockets
| || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5 ||
|-
! S-24B rockets
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! S-25O rockets
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! S-25OF rockets
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! S-25OFM rockets
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! Kh-25 missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || || || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
! Kh-25ML missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || || || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
! Kh-29L missiles
| || || || || 1 || 1 || || || ||
|-
! R-60MK missiles
| 1 || || || || || || || || || 1
|-
! S-25L missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || || || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
| colspan="11" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 1,500 kg
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
Su-25K is a support plane, it is a slow plane compared to most other planes, therefore altitude is important since likely you are going to Boom and Zoom. You need to look around constantly to prevent unexpected attack. Your main worries will be A5-C, F5-C. Those planes are fast and can dogfight you. Gain altitude and pick on unexpecting targets. Your R-60s are very good but shooting them at 3 km will be the most efficient. You can also save your missiles for headon or you can spray your guns in an headon. If you see tough enemies which are alert of your presence, try forcing a headon as it will be your best bet.
=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Excellent firepower from the GSh-30-2 cannon, having high shell velocity and a powerful punch
* Durable airframe capable of surviving multiple hits
* Access to all-aspect R-60MK missiles with excellent performance
* Decent acceleration
* Wide array of air-to-ground armament with possibility to create custom loadouts

'''Cons:'''

* Relatively low top speed
* Rather poor manoeuvrability at low-medium speeds
* Can reach its rip speed in level flight if not careful
* Big size makes it an easy target to hit

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=su_25k Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|UVeSfISG-7M|'''Su-25K Frogfoot FULL Review - Should You Buy It?''' - ''Tankenstein''}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7846-development-su-25-and-su-25k-armor-pecking-rooks-en|[Devblog] Su-25 and Su-25K: Armor-pecking Rooks]]

{{AirManufacturer Sukhoi}}
{{USSR jet aircraft}}
{{USSR premium aircraft}}

MiG-21S (R-13-300)

2022-11-06T08:27:09Z

U133931396: Usage in battles for MiG-21S (R-13-300)

{{About
| about = Soviet jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = MiG-21 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=mig-21_s
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 13,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 2,190 || 2,172 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 36.1 || 37.0 || 134.7 || 126.5 || rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
| 2,313 || 2,240 || 34.2 || 35.0 || 187.6 || 160.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| X || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 500 || 450 || ~12 || ~6
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 650 || < 600 || < 950 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Tumansky R-13-300 || 1
| colspan="2" | 5,962 kg || colspan="3" | 359 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 11m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 38m fuel
|-
| 1,135 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 6,651 kg || 7,169 kg || 7,773 kg || 8,258 kg || 9,900 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 11m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 38m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 3,825 kgf || 6,483 kgf
| 0.97 || 0.90 || 0.83 || 0.79 || 0.65
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 3,825 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || 6,977 kgf<br>(1,200 km/h)
| 1.05 || 0.97 || 0.90 || 0.84 || 0.70
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


The MiG-21S (R-13-300) can take hits from calibres lower than 30 mm guns in minor parts, but if the engine is damaged it will surely fall. A missile hit will knock out the fighter instantly or cause it to crash.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|GSh-23L (23 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannon, belly-mounted (200 rpg)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|OFAB-250sv (250 kg)|FAB-500M-54 (500 kg)|ZB-500 incendiary}}
{{main|R-3R|R-3S|S-5K|S-24}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:

* Without load
* 2 x R-3S missiles
* 4 x R-3S missiles
* 4 x R-3R missiles
* 64 x S-5K rockets
* 64 x S-5K rockets
* 4 x S-24 rockets
* 4 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! !! width="11%" | 1 !! width="11%" | 2 !! width="11%" | 3 !! width="11%" | 4
| rowspan="9" width="25%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_MiG-21bis.png]]</div>
|-
! 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs
| 1 || 1 || 1 || 1
|-
! 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs
| || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! ZB-500 incendiary bombs
| || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! S-5K rockets
| 16 || 16, 32 || 16, 32 || 16
|-
! S-24 rockets
| 1 || 1 || 1 || 1
|-
! R-3R missiles
| 1 || 1 || 1 || 1
|-
! R-3S missiles
| 1 || 1 || 1 || 1
|-
| colspan="5" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 570 kg
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
The MiG-21S (R-13-300) is used as a supporting plane that can take out fighters strangled in a dogfight. Since not having the best missiles, it is best to kill players that are not paying attention and/or flying in a straight line. Being a supporting aircraft means you should try avoiding getting into group dogfight but use your speed advantage to fight enemies that are alone. Therefore, you will most likely meet strike aircrafts or base bomber aircrafts such as F-5C, AV-8A, AV-8C, Harriers. The ones listed just now will be the most threat to you. Try to have an altitude advantage as you have superior speed, and then missile the enemies that are slow/in a dogfight. Be reminded that it is not wise to fly low because the lack of countermeasures means you will need to do a lot of maneuvers.
=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Fast aircraft, possesses a powerful engine that will get you to the battle much quicker than most
* Multiple loadouts allow decent CAS/AA options for {{Annotation|GRB|Ground Realistic Battles}}
* Radar missiles can surprise opponents not expecting to be engaged at such a distance
* Tight turn rate

'''Cons:'''

* Air-to-air missiles are underwhelming and are mostly effective only against inattentive pilots
* Bleeds excessive amounts of energy during turns
* Cannon requires careful use due to the limited amount of rounds
* Energy retention isn't the greatest
* Fuel-hungry engine, 20m of fuel will quickly disappear if not paying attention

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=mig-21_s Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|QiTm32YVGWc|'''2 Premiums, One Playstyle: MiG-21 SPS-K & MiG-21S''' - ''Spit_flyer''|XGATU1TiNws|'''High Powered Vulture - MiG-21S Winged Lions''' - ''DEFYN''|_We7EKqMT0I|'''MiG-21S : A Quick Review''' - ''Tims Variety''}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/479893-mig-21mf/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

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