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A-7D

2022-10-09T12:07:03Z

U129526723: /* Survivability and armour */ the fuel tank in the wing is actually self sealing

{{About
|about= American strike aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
|usage= the other version
|link= A-7E
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=a_7d
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]].

The {{PAGENAME}} is a light subsonic attack aircraft built by the Vought Aeronautics Division of LTV Aerospace Corporation. Military requirements specified that these aircraft be all-weather capable. This aircraft features a single nose-mounted M61 rotary cannon, six wing-mounted pylons and two fuselage-mounted pylons to which various bombs, missiles and rockets are mounted in a multitude of configurations to suit the pilot in command. Even though explicitly built for close air support and bombing missions, in a pinch, the {{PAGENAME}} attacker can scrap with any aircraft it may end up tangling with.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 1,115 || 1,110 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 35.4 || 37.1 || 42.6 || 42.3 || rowspan="2" | 1,000
|-
! Upgraded
| 1,132 || 1,123 || 34.6 || 35.0 || 68.4 || 55.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 484 || 457 || 406 || ~10 || ~4
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 700 || < 690 || < 500 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="6" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Allison TF-41-A-1 || 1
| colspan="3" | 9,101 kg || colspan="3" | 382 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="5" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 15m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 50m fuel
|-
| 1,592 kg || colspan="2" | Low-bypass turbofan
| 10,361 kg || 10,750 kg || 11,574 kg || 12,812 kg || 13,302 kg || 19,051 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="6" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 15m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 50m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 6,073 kgf || N/A
| 0.59 || 0.56 || 0.52 || 0.47 || 0.46 || 0.32
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 6,134 kgf<br>(200 km/h) || N/A
| 0.59 || 0.57 || 0.53 || 0.48 || 0.46 || 0.32
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

The {{PAGENAME}} can be a challenging aircraft to fly. As an attacker aircraft, its primary purpose is to deliver a payload to the target zone and leave. Though outfitted with Sidewinder missiles, these are more for defensive purposes or targets of opportunity. This stout attacker is relatively compact, and with all of its internal components crammed together, enemy fire can easily take out critical components in short order. Avoiding an air-to-air dogfight is the aircraft's best defence.

A radar warning receiver is standard on the {{PAGENAME}}, which alerts the pilot to an enemy aircraft actively pinging the attacker during its search pattern. Alternatively, alerts from the radar warning receiver may indicate that a SARH missile has locked on to the {{PAGENAME}}. Either way, the signal gives the pilot a heads-up and allows for defensive tactics or a head-on attack.
[[File:A-7D Wing Fuel Tank.jpg|x250px|thumb|The large, self-sealing, wing fuel tank in the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
Flares are another defensive tactic available to {{PAGENAME}} pilots once they have upgraded their Tier I modifications. Packed with 120 flare units, the {{PAGENAME}} can fend off a flurry of infrared-seeking missiles. Though these are not guaranteed life savers, they may come in handy and give the {{PAGENAME}} pilot a second chance. One helpful tactic while behind enemy lines or in an area where enemy fighters may be thick is to activate the "Periodic Flares Release", which releases flares incrementally. Though this may bring notice of where the A-7D is, the benefit of automatically launching flares makes the enemy's job much more challenging to get a shot with infrared missiles.

Even with critical countermeasures for protection, the overall design of the {{PAGENAME}} leaves no space for error when taking a hit. Much of the aircraft's fuel tanks are clustered towards the centre of the aircraft and, unfortunately, do not feature self-sealing properties. A hole in the large tank will result in quick leakage of the fuel or continuously burning if it catches on fire. Damage to the fuel tanks typically becomes a critical blow for the aircraft. Getting hit is not always the end of the world; there are many times when pilots can limp their aircraft back to safe airspace or base for repairs.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}


The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon, chin-mounted (1,000 rpg)
** 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 120 x countermeasures

The 20 mm M61A1 Vulcan is an excellent multi-purpose weapon that can fit into the {{PAGENAME}}'s role. With the high rate of fire of 6,000 RPM, the M61A1 can lay down massive amount of fire that can ensure hits onto the target.

Due to the rate of fire, the {{PAGENAME}} only needs to fire into the enemy's path only for a moment that the enemy aircraft would be pelted with multiple 20 mm shells. If this does not instantly destroy the aircraft, more than likely a critical control component has been damaged that a follow-up shot is made easier against them.

The 20 mm shells are powerful for the ground-attack roles, with 53 mm of point-blank penetration with any belts loaded. A quick burst can destroy light pill-boxes in Air Realistic Battles, as well as penetrate some medium tanks via the weaker armour areas. Though the ground vehicles that the {{PAGENAME}} can encounter in Ground Realistic Battles are often more well armoured against the 20 mm power, modules can very easily be damaged with the Vulcan's rate of fire, let alone any shots towards the tank's roof armour.

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)}}
{{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|GBU-8 (2,000 lb)|BLU-27/B incendiary|GAU-13/A (30 mm)|GAU-4 (20 mm)}}
{{main|AGM-65A|AIM-9E Sidewinder|AIM-9J Sidewinder}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:

* Without load
* 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 24 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 24 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (10,500 lb total)
* 6 x BLU-27/B incendiary bombs
* 12 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 6 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 4 x AGM-65A missiles
* 4 x 2,000 lb GBU-8 bombs (8,000 lb total)
* 2 x 20 mm GAU-4 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total)
* 2 x 30 mm GAU-13/A cannons (353 rpg = 706 total)

The A-7D can carry an assortment of bombs and unguided/guided rockets that are familiar to players of the American attacker line, with the primary differences to preceding attackers being that the A-7D have a staggering 6 hardpoints on its wing which can mount suspended weaponry, including the ability to carry dual 20 mm [[M61A1 (20 mm)|M61A1]] gunpods or dual 30 mm [[GAU-13/A (30 mm)|GAU-13/A]] gunpods, a scaled down yet still equally deadly variant of the GAU-8/A belonging to the infamous Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt 2, that can shred anything staring down its barrel. Finally the inclusion of [[Ballistic Computer|CCIP]] that assists in the usage of the aforementioned weaponry completes the A-7D as a deadly CAS package.

Besides ground targets, the AGM-65A Maverick missiles can also be great for taking helicopters down in mixed ground battles.

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! !! width="5%" | 1 !! width="5%" | 2 !! width="5%" | 3 !! width="5%" | 4 !! width="5%" | 5 !! width="5%" | 6 !! width="5%" | 7 !! width="5%" | 8
| rowspan="14" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
|-
! 20 mm GAU-4 cannons (1,200 rpg)
| || || 1 || || || 1 || ||
|-
! 30 mm GAU-13/A cannons (353 rpg)
| || || 1 || || || 1 || ||
|-
! 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs
| 6 || 6 || || || || || 6 || 6
|-
! 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs
| 6 || 6 || || || || || 6 || 6
|-
! 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs
| 1 || 4 || 2 || || || 2 || 4 || 1
|-
! 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs
| 3 || 3 || || || || || 3 || 3
|-
! 2,000 lb GBU-8 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || || || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs
| 1 || 1 || 1 || || || 1 || 1 || 1
|-
! BLU-27/B incendiary bombs
| 1 || 1 || 1 || || || 1 || 1 || 1
|-
! FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
| 19 || 19 || 19 || || || 19 || 19 || 19
|-
! AGM-65A missiles
| || 1 || 1 || || || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
| || || || 1 || 1 || || ||
|-
! AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles
| || || || 1 || 1 || || ||
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==


;Air battles

When flying the A-7D in air realistic battles, the main challenge can be getting to bases or ground targets as most of the fight revolves around the centre of the map. To counter this, take some time to fly and possibly climb away from the map center where radar-equipped planes may be searching.
Once you've made it to the side, look at your surroundings and determine which group of targets/bombing base will net you the most rewards with as little risk of being shot down as possible. The moment you've expended your ordnance, you have two options - stay and fight other jet fighters or go back to the airfield to rearm and repair. These two options have their risks and benefits:

* By staying, you open the chance to shoot down an enemy aircraft and grab yourself a large reward, but you also put yourself up as an easy target as the A-7D isn't designed to fight air targets primarily.
* By returning to the base, you get the chance to repair any damage to your plane and get more ordnance to go back and attack more ground targets. One disadvantage is that your teammates may be stuck along in an unfair fight without your assistance.

;Ground battles

In ground realistic battles, the A-7D is simultaneously a flying whale and a flying tank killer.

This aspect comes from that your attacker isn't very manoeuvrable. Still, the huge ordnance options allow you to take full advantage of the long flying periods that result from the large payloads and a large number of countermeasures.

You want to be aware of your surroundings and of any dangerous SPAA that may be an active mid-battle. Listen to your RWR, and visually check if any tracers or missiles may be headed your way. If you receive a lock warning take evasive manoeuvres and wait till the SPAA is taken out or that you get another chance to sneak up on the target to take them out.

;;AGM-65 / Rockets

Your AGMs and rockets can be your best luck at speedy attacks that require less time on attack slope that leave you as a sitting duck compared to bomb dropping. With the missiles, you can attain lock and quickly fire, then pull away to make sure you are in a safe position to reset and go in for another missile attack.

You can saturate an area with a huge number of rockets with rockets quickly from just about any altitude. If you have the weapon selection tool active, you can change the number of rockets fired at once, which can be very useful when you have to take out a single target with as little time in the combat area.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Possesses a deadly 20 mm Vulcan gun, with the ability to add two more 20 mm or 30 mm gun pods to the wings
** 20 mm Vulcan is deadly enough to destroy a majority of ground targets in an air match
** 30 mm gun pods produce one of the highest one-second burst mass in the game
* Can hold a wide variety of suspended armaments for ground-attack, air-attack, or both
* CCIP for guns, rockets, and bombs means the plane can use its payload with great accuracy and effectiveness
* Air-attack payload can consist of two AIM-9J, which are very competitive against the {{PAGENAME}}'s opponents
* Has radar warning receiver available by default to notify the pilot of enemy radar pings or lock-ons
* Unlocked flares give a substantial 120 flares to deter infrared missiles
* Cockpit interior has a mini-map available and can be easily interpreted
* Fire and forget AGM-65 Mavericks with an effective range of 5+ km

'''Cons:'''

* Flaps have weak structural integrity and requires a rather low airspeed even for landing flaps
* Airbrakes cannot be extended when the gear is deployed, hindering airbrake flexibility when slowing down for a landing
* Plane is sluggish, can only travel subsonic speed, and is not manoeuvrable to be as effective in an air combat role
** These traits make it difficult to lose a tailing enemy fighter
* Is a large target and is filled with critical modules
** Fuel tanks make up a good majority of the plane's interior

== History ==


The A-7D Corsair II was the US Air Force version of the Navy's A-7 Corsair II. It was procured by the USAF due to the urging of the US Army, which wanted a subsonic aircraft to carry out close air support (CAS) missions for its ground forces. <ref>https://www.mdairmuseum.org/a-7d-corsair-ii</ref>

The A-7D had a number of differences from the earlier Navy Corsairs, due to different requirements by the Air Force. The TF-30 engine was replaced by a version of the Rolls-Royce Spey, called the TF-41. The TF-41-A1 version was used in the A-7D, producing 14,250 pounds of thrust. The two 20 mm cannons of the earlier Corsair IIs were replaced by the M61A1 rotary cannon. The avionics suite of the A-7D was also different from that of the earlier models; the AN/ASN-91 Central Computer was the centerpiece of the navigation and weaponry delivery system, which also featured the AN/APQ-126 radar, AN/AVQ-7 heads-up display, projected map display system, doppler radar, inertial navigation system, and a weapons control system.

Some aspects of the A-7D made it unique from all Navy variants of the Corsair II. It had a boom and receptacle in-flight refueling system, improved wheels, tires, and brakes, an ESCAPAC IC ejection system, and a new oxygen system. The US Navy A-7E shared many characteristics with the A-7, but these changes listed never made it to USN Corsair IIs. <ref>https://www.vought.org/products/html/a-7d.html</ref>

A total of 459 A-7Ds were built, with deliveries starting to the 57th Fighter Weapons Wing in 1970. Starting in 1972, the Air Force's 354th Tactical Fighter Wing operated A-7Ds from Korat Royal Thai Air Force Base in Thailand during the late stages of the Vietnam War. Four USAF A-7Ds were lost in combat and two more were lost to other causes during that conflict, with a total of 12,928 combat sorties. Towards the end of the Vietnam War, A-7Ds from Korat Royal Thai AIr Force Base saw combat over Cambodia against the Khmer Rouge in support of the Lon Nol government. The last combat mission in Cambodia by an A-7D occurred on 15 August 1973.

Starting in 1973, A-7Ds began to be allocated to the Air National Guard (ANG). ANG A-7Ds flew 34 combat sorties during the 1989 Operation Just Cause in Panama. The A-7D was fully retired in the early 1990s, having been replaced by the A-10 Thunderbolt, which first entered service in 1977.

=== [[wt:en/news/6973-development-a-7d-corsair-ii-bulk-delivery-en|Devblog]] ===
In the early 1960s, the US Navy sought to procure a new naval strike aircraft in order to replace the A-4 Skyhawk. However, to ensure a fast development and reduce costs, the new machine was supposed to be based on aircraft already in service with the USN at the time. One of the aircraft manufacturers taking part in the competition - Ling-Temco-Vought (LTV) - quickly developed an aircraft on the basis of their F-8 Crusader by shrinking the dimensions of the new aircraft and taking away its supersonic abilities in an effort to further save on costs.

The decision to do this was met with success as LTV's design was quickly declared the winner of the competition and given the official designation A-7 and named 'Corsair II', signaling the lineage from the older WWII-era fighter bomber F4U Corsair (also built by Vought). The aircraft undertook its maiden flight in September 1965, with serial production starting in 1966. In the first production batch, close to 200 A-7A Corsair IIs were built with many seeing action in the ongoing Vietnam War.

Driven by the need to acquire a new strike aircraft themselves, and encouraged by the successes achieved by the A-7 in Vietnam, the USAF ordered the development of a separate Army variant in 1968, which would become the A-7D. Apart from vastly improved avionics, the A-7D also featured a more powerful engine and an M61 Vulcan cannon instead of two single-barreled 20 mm cannons.

The A-7D entered production in 1968 and continued rolling off the assembly line until 1975 with over 450 units being produced. It served until the early 1990s before being retired from active service.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=a_7d Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
<gallery mode="packed" caption="A-7D Corsair II Devblog Images" heights="150">
File:A-7D WTWallpaper 001.jpg|
File:A-7D WTWallpaper 002.jpg|
File:A-7D WTWallpaper 003.jpg|
File:A-7D WTWallpaper 004.jpg|
File:A-7D WTWallpaper 005.jpg|
File:A-7D WTWallpaper 006.jpg|
File:A-7D WTWallpaper 007.jpg|
</gallery>

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|7J6c4D5MVRg|'''The Shooting Range #235''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:28 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6973-development-a-7d-corsair-ii-bulk-delivery-en|[Devblog] A-7D Corsair II: Bulk Delivery]]
* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/510140-a-7d-corsair-ii/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://archive.org/details/T.O.1A7D1FlightManualA7D20091972/page/n17/mode/2up/ Technical Order 1A-7D-1 Flight Manual A-7D (Published 1971, December 15)]

=== References ===

;Citations
<references />

;Bibliography

* A-7D Corsair II. (n.d.). Retrieved December 11, 2020, from https://www.mdairmuseum.org/a-7d-corsair-ii ([https://web.archive.org/web/20211123184644/https://www.mdairmuseum.org/a-7d-corsair-ii Archive])
* LTV A-7D Corsair II. (2015, July 21). Retrieved December 11, 2020, from https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196072/ltv-a-7d-corsair-ii/ ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210305063632/http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196072/ltv-a-7d-corsair-ii/ Archive])
* Standard Aircraft Characteristics A-7D Corsair II. (n.d.). Retrieved December 11, 2020, from http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7D_Corsair_II_SAC_-_December_1986.pdf ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210423173828/http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7D_Corsair_II_SAC_-_December_1986.pdf Archive])
* Stites, R. (n.d.). A-7D. Retrieved December 11, 2020, from https://www.vought.org/products/html/a-7d.html ([https://web.archive.org/web/20170520000801/http://www.vought.org/products/html/a-7d.html Archive])

{{AirManufacturer Vought}}
{{USA jet aircraft}}

Milan

2022-09-16T16:15:34Z

U129526723: /* Pros and cons */

{{About
| about = premium French jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the ATGM
| link = MILAN
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=mirage_milan
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
|store=10892
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 12,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 550
|-
! Upgraded
| 2,268 || 2,194 || 25.3 || 27.0 || 195.2 || 160.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| X || X || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| 1,460  || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || N/A || 1,460 || ~11 || ~4
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 920 || < 750 || < 650 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 9K-50 || 1
| colspan="2" | 7,250 kg || colspan="2" | 300 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Max Gross<br>Weight|Mass of the fully equipped aircraft with heaviest weapons load}}
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 29m fuel
|-
| 1,590 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 7,935 kg || 8,792 kg || 9,533 kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 29m fuel || MGW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,878 kgf || 6,745 kgf
| 0.86 || 0.77 || 0.71 || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 5,904 kgf<br>(1,200 - 1,400 km/h) || 9,142 kgf<br>(1,200 - 1,400 km/h)
| 1.16 || 1.05 || 0.97 || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552A (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (125 rpg = 250 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|SAMP Type 25 (250 kg)|SAMP Mk 82 (250 kg)|SAMP Type 21 (400 kg)|SAMP Mk 83 (500 kg)}}
{{main|AIM-9B Sidewinder|AS-30 Nord|SNEB type 23}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:

* Without load
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
* 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 10 x 250 kg SAMP Mk 82 bombs (2,500 kg total)
* 10 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (2,500 kg total)
* 6 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,400 kg total)
* 5 x 500 kg SAMP Mk 83 bombs (2,500 kg total)
* 1 x AS-30 Nord missile
* 1 x AS-30 Nord missile + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 4 x 500 kg SAMP Mk 83 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (500 kg total)

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="9%" | 1 !! width="9%" | 2 !! width="9%" | 3 !! width="9%" | 4 !! width="9%" | 5
| rowspan="8" width="30%" | 
|-
! 250 kg SAMP Mk 82 bombs
| || 4 || 2 || 4 ||
|-
! 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs
| || 4 || 2 || 4 ||
|-
! 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs
| || 2 || 2 || 2 ||
|-
! 500 kg SAMP Mk 83 bombs
| || 2 || 1 || 2 ||
|-
! SNEB type 23 rockets
| || 18, 36 || || 18, 36 ||
|-
! AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
| 1 || || || || 1
|-
! AS-30 Nord missiles
| || || 1 || ||
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

* Incredible top speed - can hit 1100+ Km/h on the deck.
* Customizable loadout options with rockets, bombs, and AGM's.
* CCIP/CCRP for bombs, rockets, and guns.
* Decent medium speed handling.
* DEFA cannons will shred whatever they hit.
* Premium bonuses.
* Decent cockpit for sim.
* Drop tanks (which must be equipped in order to carry bombs or rockets) can be dropped to increase performance in dogfights

*

'''Cons:'''

* Mediocre air to air missiles.
* No countermeasures/RWR.
* Horrible energy retention
* Elevators compress at 950+ Km/h
* DEFA's may be hard to aim
* No radar compared to the other Mirage III's in game.

*

== History ==

=== [[wt:en/news/7698-development-dassault-milan-the-flying-mustache-en|Devblog]] ===
Development of the Milan began in 1968 when Dassault, in cooperation with Swiss engineers, began working on a modification of the Mirage III, which became known as Milan or 'Kite'. Unlike the standard variants of the Mirage, the Milan received a pair of retractable canards on its nose section in order to improve the aircraft's low speed handling characteristics and shorten take-off distances. In addition, the aircraft was fitted with an uprated ATAR 9K-50 turbojet engine as well as a laser rangefinder.

Dassault manufactured a total of three Milans, basing them both on the Mirage III and Mirage 5. Tests of the various prototypes all showed notable improvements in the areas targeted by the aircraft's modifications. However, the canards also caused issues with the normal operation of the air intakes as a result of their turbulence generation.

Regardless, Milan competed in the Swiss tender against both the A-7G as well as the G.91Y, but failed to impress the Swiss Air Force sufficiently to enter service, same as her competitors though. In 1972, Dassault stopped all further work on the Milan project and shifted its attention to the development which resulted in a more advanced version of the Mirage. The Dassault Milan undertook its final flight in March 1976.

The Mirage Milan represented in the game is a Mirage IIIR (reconnaissance variant) modified to carry canards.

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7698-development-dassault-milan-the-flying-mustache-en|[Devblog] Dassault Milan: The Flying Mustache]]

{{AirManufacturer Dassault}}
{{France jet aircraft}}
{{France premium aircraft}}

F4D-1

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|code=f4d_1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''', later known as the F-6A under the 1962 Tri-Service aircraft designation system, is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update "Danger Zone"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/7796-event-summer-quest-en|2022 Summer Quest event]].

The last subsonic carrier-based jet fighter adapted into USN service by Douglas, the Skyray offers sufficient speed at its rank with a large wing, boosting its overall climb rate and allowing it to fly in transonic speeds without any fatal structural damage. However, players do have to beware of its outdated design of wing-mounted guns, whereas most jets of the era put them on the centreline instead, as well as severe bleeding of speed in manoeuvres due to the large wing.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

At first glance, players will notice its enormous delta wings, while this helps with its climbing speed and overall structural integrity, as well as holding more fuel for longer fights; this also means that with the help of slats and flaps, it can be a fearsome dogfighter thanks to its powerful Pratt & Whitney J57-P-8 engine with an afterburner at transonic speeds - even supersonic at higher altitudes or in a dive. The plane is very stable across all speeds and its very rare that you ever reach its redline of 1,283 km/h, although you will need to factor in compression at higher speeds (above ~950 km/h). The delta wing provides a good instantaneous turn rate, though also causes severe energy bleeding in manoeuvres, and the overall large size also means that it will become an easy target for enemy jets with higher energy. So be aware not to dogfight for too long, else the F4D-1 will not be able to gain back enough energy, even with its good acceleration, to escape from the turmoil and lead you straight back to the hangar.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 1,138 || 1,134 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 22.8 || 23.5 || 100.6 || 92.6 || rowspan="2" | 900
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || X || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| 1,283  || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 1,283 || N/A || 1,283 || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Pratt & Whitney J57P8 || 1
| colspan="2" | 7,245 kg || colspan="2" | 190 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Max Gross<br>Weight|Mass of the fully equipped aircraft with heaviest weapons load}}
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 7m fuel || 20m fuel || 25m fuel
|-
| 2,122 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 7,811 kg || 8,733 kg || 9,133 kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 7m fuel || 20m fuel || 25m fuel || MGW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,249 kgf || 7,269 kgf
| 0.93 || 0.83 || 0.80 || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 4,475 kgf<br>(1,000 km/h) || 8,104 kgf<br>(1,200 km/h)
| 1.04 || 0.93 || 0.89 || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

The only protection on this aircraft is a 8 mm steel plate right in front of the pilot; although it is practically useless against autocannons, it may sometimes save you from head-on .50 cal strafes. Another bad news is that the tanks are not self-sealing, so there is very high chance that players will not survive if set afire, unless at very low fuel - in which case they will no longer have enough fuel for an escape.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 0 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 4 x 20 mm Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 0 cannons, wing-mounted (65 rpg = 260 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|AIM-9B Sidewinder|FFAR Mighty Mouse}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:

* Without load
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
* 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
* 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! !! width="7%" | 1 !! width="7%" | 2 !! width="7%" | 3 !! width="7%" | 4 !! width="7%" | 5 !! width="7%" | 6
| rowspan="3" width="30%" | 
|-
! FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
| 7, 19 || 7, 19 || 7, 19 || 7, 19 || 7, 19 || 7, 19
|-
! AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
| 1 || || 1 || 1 || || 1
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Players who fly the A-4 series will feel familiar, since Douglas adopted a similar design of delta wing and autocannon on the F4D-1. Other traits are very similar as well, particularly the manoeuvrability and ballistics. While it has 2 pairs of guns on its wings, a concentrated burst on an enemy will certainly be their demise. Its overall high manoeuvrability and angle of attack (AoA) also helps to gain a slightly longer window to take out enemy aircraft, so long as you stay aware of your speed and keep turns below 950km/h, as this plane does lock up vertically in speeds greater than about 950 km/h. Beware of being stalled by manoeuvres: although the F4D can gain its speed back relatively quickly, this can leave enough window for enemies to lay their guns on your plane. So either be quick with taking down your target or evacuate from the battlefield for another attack run. Fuel is limited to 25 minutes, which goes fast when on full afterburner, so keep an eye on it.

If ground pounding is your objective, chances are players will find the FFARs useless against ground targets in ground RB and even in air RB due to its explosive content; the task is made slightly easier with the ballistic computer, but do not expect a solid kill aside from light vehicles.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* High speed and acceleration for a transonic jet
* High AoA thanks to its delta wing, can dogfight if needed
* Access to a relatively long-range radar
* Access to four AIM-9B missiles
* Four devastating 20 mm autocannons which can be bound to fire separately
* Can carry 114 x FFAR rockets for Ground RB, or a mix of AIM-9Bs & FFAR rockets for Air RB

'''Cons:'''

* Relatively low velocity and low ammo count for the cannon
* Large target
* Bleeds speed severely after manoeuvres
* Elevator locks up above roughly 950 km/h
* Rather average 25-minute maximum fuel load, goes quickly when on full afterburner
* Only rockets as alternative ground-attacking weapon, and they are somewhat underpowered
* Bad rear visibility from the cockpit
* Wing rips are common while doing basic turns at high speeds

== History ==

The program for F4D Skyray traces back to a German aerodynamic engineer, Alexander Martin Lippisch. As one of the pioneers of rocket-powered aircraft (the designer of the [[Me 163 B|Me 163]]) and supersonic designs, he had also been interested in many other new aspects of aerodynamics, including tailless aircraft, and one design stood out - delta wings. As part of the efforts to gain the upper hand against the Soviet Union before the end of the European Theatre of WWII, Lippisch and his designs were among part of Operation Paperclip to bring German engineers to the US.

As the tension between the two great powers rose and the creation of high-speed jet bombers such as the Soviet Tu-16 Badger, the need for a jet that could climb as fast as possible arose as well. The USN wanted a new jet interceptor that could climb to around 15 km/50k ft within 5 minutes of combat alarm while putting Lippisch's (working for Convair by this period) design into good use. Ed Heineman (also the designer of the [[A-4 (Family)|A-4 Skyhawk]]) of Douglas Aircraft Company adapted the designes for use and the prototype XF4D was built by 1951 and flew into the skies on 23 January 1951. The prototypes used Allison J35-A-17 turbojet engines, then changed to a Westinghouse J40-WE-8 with afterburner. As the tests went on, the record of top speed at sea-level was broken on 3 October 1953 by Lt. Cmd. James B. Verdin, and this also earned Ed a Collier Trophy from NAA. After its 5 years of test flights and evaluation, the USN became the first user of the F4D and stationed them at San Diego as part of the NORAD North America defense network against possible assaults; USMC and NACA (later NASA) used it as well.

As the demand for a multi-role jet rose, the F4D (by the time F-6 under the new Tri-service designation) was soon withdrawn from use as a dedicated interceptor in 1964, replaced by the McDonnell Douglas [[F-4C Phantom II|F-4 Phantom II]].

== Media ==


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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=f4d_1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7798-development-f4d-1-skyray-en|[Devblog] F4D-1 Skyray]]

{{USA jet aircraft}}