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VCC-80/60

2022-02-13T00:14:13Z

U108217189: /* Pros and cons */

{{About
| about = Italian light tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = VCC-80 Dardo (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=it_vcc_80_hitfist_60
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_VCC-80-60.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The VCC-80/60's armour is easily penetrated by any shell at its BR. The engine and transmission will rarely stop KE munitions from penetrating from the front and the turret can be penetrated by any APFSDS. The turret cheeks have a decent amount of protection against CE munitions but will not stop ATGMs.

'''Armour type:'''

* Aluminum Alloy 5083 (hull front, rear, and roof, hull sides - bottom)
* Aluminum Alloy 7039 (hull sides - top, turret)
* Rolled homogeneous armour (turret underside, vents)
* Composite Screen (gun mantlet)
* Rubber-fabric (side skirts)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 8 + 25 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis'' 22 + 50 mm (38°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 25 + 50 mm (33°) ''Top'' 32-52 + 2 mm ''Bottom'' || 38 mm (30°) || 25 mm
|-
| Turret || 60 mm (17°) ''Turret front'' 25 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 40 mm (8°) || 40 mm || 25 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and torsion bars are 10 mm thick, while tracks are 15 mm thick.
* Belly armour is 25 mm thick.
* A 6 mm internal plate inside the tank acts as spaced armour for spalling debris

{| class="wikitable"
! Composite screens !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides
|-
| Turret || '''Turret Front:''' 100 mm ''Kinetic'' Up to 450 mm ''Chemical'' || '''Turret Side:''' 25 mm ''Kinetic'' Up to 200 mm ''Chemical''
|-
|}

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=806|rbMinHp=460}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Cannone da 60/70 (60 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Cannone da 60/70 (60 mm)|60 mm Cannone da 60/70]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 32 || rowspan="2" | -6°/+40° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 32.7 || 45.2 || 54.9 || 60.7 || 64.6 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 20.4 || 24.0 || 29.2 || 32.2 || 34.3
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M300 || APFSDS || 249 || 246 || 240 || 231 || 222 || 213
|-
| OTO HE || HE || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
| OTO HE-VT || HE-VT* || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M300 || APFSDS || 1,620 || 0.87 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| OTO HE || HE || 1,000 || 3.07 || 0 || 0.1 || 765 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="12" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! rowspan="2" | Arming distance (m)
! rowspan="2" | Trigger radius (m)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| OTO HE-VT || HE-VT* || 1,000 || 3.07 || 0 || 0.1 || 765 || 500 || 8 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''32''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Beretta MG42/59]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (200) || 1,200 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Try not to play this tank as a first spawn, as its APFSDS round is quite bad and will struggle to kill many tanks. Instead, this tank fares much better as a second or third spawn, when it can destroy weaker tanks of the enemy and eliminate helicopters and aircraft with its laser rangefinder and proximity fused shells. The fast speed when spaded is good for capturing points in the late phase of the game. The most dangerous enemies you will face will be enemy MBTs, as your M300 APFSDS shell struggles to frontally penetrate them or even one shot them from the side.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* High rate of fire, thanks to its autoloader: 1 round every 2 seconds
* Gen 1 thermals for gunner
* Commander sight
* Effective turret armour, can withstand some KE munitions and small-calibre autocannon fire
* Proximity fuse rounds, good for dealing with enemy aircraft

'''Cons:'''

* The hull isn't very well protected, unless hull-down you will not withstand much
* Crew placement is inadequate, crew members can get taken out if shot in the middle of the turret
* Poor mobility when stock
* APFSDS round does not penetrate much, you will need to know every opponents weak spots to make the best out of each round

== History ==

During the late stages of the Cold War, OTO Melara, assisted by IVECO, had been designing a set of new multi-role armoured fighting vehicles in the hopes that enough interest would be generated to get the vehicles picked up either by the Italian Army or by possible foreign customers. Multiple different types of unique designs, with vastly different sets of armaments would arise during that era. These vehicles would however not generate much success in or indeed outside of Italy, but eventually during the '80s OTO Melara would finally come out with a design which would finally be picked up by the Italian army.

Despite a troubled development cycle, the VCC-80 Dardo would enter service and would continue to serve inside of the Italian army even till this day. Although the base version which is being used is comprised of the OTO TC-25 turret armed with a 25 mm Oerlikon-Buhrle cannon and TOW ATGMs, OTO Melara would heavily experiment on the previous versions known as the VCC-80.

The general configuration of the VCC-80 is conventional, being similar to other contemporary infantry fighting vehicles. What sets it apart is the design, being very well self-proportioned and well executed. The hull as well as the turret of the VCC-80 is welded from plates of aluminium alloys (5083 and 7020 type). These vehicles would be extremely useful in gaining valuable know-how, and allowed OTO Melara to see what worked and what didn't.

One of these cases would be the VCC-80/60, a one-off prototype which would utilize a very special weapon system known as the OTO T60A. The OTO T60A was a further development of the joint Italian-Israeli collaboration of the 60 mm High Velocity Medium Support (HVMS) weapon system. In short, both countries had disagreements which led to them going separate ways when developing the cannon.

Outside of Italy, many different turret variants would come out, such as the OTO T60M which would be manually loaded and tested unto a Fiat 6616 vehicle, and then the OTO T60A which would be autoloaded and installed on various different vehicles such as the OTO Melara AV-90, B1 Centauro, and of course, the VCC-80. The T60A would come in different versions however the one installed on the VCC-80/60 would be a special version which would mount a special armour kit at the front of the turret, this would surprisingly protect the crew quite a bit from KE munitions and low level auto-cannon fire. However the turret was not invincible, advanced APFSDS used on MBTs of the time would easily be able to penetrate the vehicle, same goes for the hull which was even less protected than the turret. It is important to note that this vehicle variant was primarily advertised to be a troop support vehicle, and was not designed to fight tanks 1-on-1, instead the idea was to keep it close to infantry where it could adequately provide support while also being able to be a platform which could repel any enemy helicopter attacks thanks to its special munitions. The 60 mm cannon could use proxy, HE and APFSDS rounds, which as previously mentioned would be autoloaded, specifically it could fire 1 round every 2 seconds. The vehicle sadly did not generate interest with the Italian Army, which instead opted for the variant armed with a 25 mm. It is unknown what happened to the 60 mm variant, however it is good to note that Poland at one point showed interest and decided to utilize the same weapon system for a vehicle called the 'BWP 2000'.

== Media ==


;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|4XbrWIv1L70|'''Italy's budget HSTV-L ft. nukes! - VCC8-/60''' - ''JustinPlays''}}

== See also ==


* [[Dardo]]
* [[VCC-80/30]]
* [[C13 T90]]

== External links ==


* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/434464-vcc-dardo/
* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/393556-variants-dardo-ifv-italian/

{{TankManufacturer OTO Melara}}
{{Italy light tanks}}

VCC-80/60

2022-02-13T00:13:09Z

U108217189: /* Usage in battles */ spelling

{{About
| about = Italian light tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = VCC-80 Dardo (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=it_vcc_80_hitfist_60
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_VCC-80-60.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The VCC-80/60's armour is easily penetrated by any shell at its BR. The engine and transmission will rarely stop KE munitions from penetrating from the front and the turret can be penetrated by any APFSDS. The turret cheeks have a decent amount of protection against CE munitions but will not stop ATGMs.

'''Armour type:'''

* Aluminum Alloy 5083 (hull front, rear, and roof, hull sides - bottom)
* Aluminum Alloy 7039 (hull sides - top, turret)
* Rolled homogeneous armour (turret underside, vents)
* Composite Screen (gun mantlet)
* Rubber-fabric (side skirts)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 8 + 25 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis'' 22 + 50 mm (38°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 25 + 50 mm (33°) ''Top'' 32-52 + 2 mm ''Bottom'' || 38 mm (30°) || 25 mm
|-
| Turret || 60 mm (17°) ''Turret front'' 25 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 40 mm (8°) || 40 mm || 25 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and torsion bars are 10 mm thick, while tracks are 15 mm thick.
* Belly armour is 25 mm thick.
* A 6 mm internal plate inside the tank acts as spaced armour for spalling debris

{| class="wikitable"
! Composite screens !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides
|-
| Turret || '''Turret Front:''' 100 mm ''Kinetic'' Up to 450 mm ''Chemical'' || '''Turret Side:''' 25 mm ''Kinetic'' Up to 200 mm ''Chemical''
|-
|}

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=806|rbMinHp=460}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Cannone da 60/70 (60 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Cannone da 60/70 (60 mm)|60 mm Cannone da 60/70]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 32 || rowspan="2" | -6°/+40° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 32.7 || 45.2 || 54.9 || 60.7 || 64.6 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 20.4 || 24.0 || 29.2 || 32.2 || 34.3
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M300 || APFSDS || 249 || 246 || 240 || 231 || 222 || 213
|-
| OTO HE || HE || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
| OTO HE-VT || HE-VT* || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M300 || APFSDS || 1,620 || 0.87 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| OTO HE || HE || 1,000 || 3.07 || 0 || 0.1 || 765 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="12" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! rowspan="2" | Arming distance (m)
! rowspan="2" | Trigger radius (m)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| OTO HE-VT || HE-VT* || 1,000 || 3.07 || 0 || 0.1 || 765 || 500 || 8 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''32''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Beretta MG42/59]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (200) || 1,200 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Try not to play this tank as a first spawn, as its APFSDS round is quite bad and will struggle to kill many tanks. Instead, this tank fares much better as a second or third spawn, when it can destroy weaker tanks of the enemy and eliminate helicopters and aircraft with its laser rangefinder and proximity fused shells. The fast speed when spaded is good for capturing points in the late phase of the game. The most dangerous enemies you will face will be enemy MBTs, as your M300 APFSDS shell struggles to frontally penetrate them or even one shot them from the side.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* High rate of fire, thanks to its autoloader: 1 round every 2 seconds
* Thermals for gunner
* Commander sight
* Effective turret armour, can withstand some KE munitions and small-calibre autocannon fire
* Proximity fuse rounds, good for dealing with enemy aircraft

'''Cons:'''

* The hull isn't very well protected, unless hull-down you will not withstand much
* Crew placement is inadequate, crew members can get taken out if shot in the middle of the turret
* Poor mobility when stock
* APFSDS round does not penetrate much, you will need to know every opponents weak spots to make the best out out of each round

== History ==

During the late stages of the Cold War, OTO Melara, assisted by IVECO, had been designing a set of new multi-role armoured fighting vehicles in the hopes that enough interest would be generated to get the vehicles picked up either by the Italian Army or by possible foreign customers. Multiple different types of unique designs, with vastly different sets of armaments would arise during that era. These vehicles would however not generate much success in or indeed outside of Italy, but eventually during the '80s OTO Melara would finally come out with a design which would finally be picked up by the Italian army.

Despite a troubled development cycle, the VCC-80 Dardo would enter service and would continue to serve inside of the Italian army even till this day. Although the base version which is being used is comprised of the OTO TC-25 turret armed with a 25 mm Oerlikon-Buhrle cannon and TOW ATGMs, OTO Melara would heavily experiment on the previous versions known as the VCC-80.

The general configuration of the VCC-80 is conventional, being similar to other contemporary infantry fighting vehicles. What sets it apart is the design, being very well self-proportioned and well executed. The hull as well as the turret of the VCC-80 is welded from plates of aluminium alloys (5083 and 7020 type). These vehicles would be extremely useful in gaining valuable know-how, and allowed OTO Melara to see what worked and what didn't.

One of these cases would be the VCC-80/60, a one-off prototype which would utilize a very special weapon system known as the OTO T60A. The OTO T60A was a further development of the joint Italian-Israeli collaboration of the 60 mm High Velocity Medium Support (HVMS) weapon system. In short, both countries had disagreements which led to them going separate ways when developing the cannon.

Outside of Italy, many different turret variants would come out, such as the OTO T60M which would be manually loaded and tested unto a Fiat 6616 vehicle, and then the OTO T60A which would be autoloaded and installed on various different vehicles such as the OTO Melara AV-90, B1 Centauro, and of course, the VCC-80. The T60A would come in different versions however the one installed on the VCC-80/60 would be a special version which would mount a special armour kit at the front of the turret, this would surprisingly protect the crew quite a bit from KE munitions and low level auto-cannon fire. However the turret was not invincible, advanced APFSDS used on MBTs of the time would easily be able to penetrate the vehicle, same goes for the hull which was even less protected than the turret. It is important to note that this vehicle variant was primarily advertised to be a troop support vehicle, and was not designed to fight tanks 1-on-1, instead the idea was to keep it close to infantry where it could adequately provide support while also being able to be a platform which could repel any enemy helicopter attacks thanks to its special munitions. The 60 mm cannon could use proxy, HE and APFSDS rounds, which as previously mentioned would be autoloaded, specifically it could fire 1 round every 2 seconds. The vehicle sadly did not generate interest with the Italian Army, which instead opted for the variant armed with a 25 mm. It is unknown what happened to the 60 mm variant, however it is good to note that Poland at one point showed interest and decided to utilize the same weapon system for a vehicle called the 'BWP 2000'.

== Media ==


;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|4XbrWIv1L70|'''Italy's budget HSTV-L ft. nukes! - VCC8-/60''' - ''JustinPlays''}}

== See also ==


* [[Dardo]]
* [[VCC-80/30]]
* [[C13 T90]]

== External links ==


* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/434464-vcc-dardo/
* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/393556-variants-dardo-ifv-italian/

{{TankManufacturer OTO Melara}}
{{Italy light tanks}}

VCC-80/60

2022-02-12T09:56:35Z

U108217189: /* Usage in battles */

{{About
| about = Italian light tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = VCC-80 Dardo (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=it_vcc_80_hitfist_60
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_VCC-80-60.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The VCC-80/60's armour is easily penetrated by all shells that it can encounter at it's BR. The engine and transmission will rarely stop KE munitions from penetrating from the front and the turret can be penetrated by any APFSDS that is fired at it. The turret cheeks have a decent amount of protection against CE munitions but will not stop ATGMs.

'''Armour type:'''

* Aluminum Alloy 5083 ( Hull Front & Roof )
* Aluminum Alloy 7039 ( Hull Sides, Turret )
* Composite Screen ( Gun Mantlet )


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 25 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis''
50 mm (60°) ''Lower Glacis''
| 25 mm ''Top'' 52 mm ''Bottom'' || 38 mm || 25 mm
|-
| Turret || 60 mm ''Turret front'' ~430 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 40 mm || 40 mm || 25 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick
* Tracks are 15 mm thick
* The front of the turret has a composite screen that provides ~100mm of protection against KE projectiles and ~450mm of protection against CE projectiles.
* The side of the turret has a composite screen that provides ~25mm of protection against KE projectiles and ~200mm of protection against CE projectiles.
* 2mm thick rubber-fabric screens cover the lower side of the hull
* 6mm RHA inside of the tank to act as a spall shield

{| class="wikitable"
!Additional Armour
!Front ( Slope )
!Side
!Rear
|-
|Hull
|8mm RHA (78°) ''Upper Glacis''
22mm RHA (38°) ''Lower Glacis''
|2mm ''Lower Side''
|N/A
|-
|Turret
|~450mm ''Turret Front''
|~160mm ''Turret Side''
|N/A
|}


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=806|rbMinHp=460}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Cannone da 60/70 (60 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Cannone da 60/70 (60 mm)|60 mm Cannone da 60/70]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 32 || rowspan="2" | -6°/+40° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 32.7 || 45.2 || 54.9 || 60.7 || 64.6 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 20.4 || 24.0 || 29.2 || 32.2 || 34.3
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M300 || APFSDS || 249 || 246 || 240 || 231 || 222 || 213
|-
| OTO HE || HE || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
| OTO HE-VT || HE-VT* || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M300 || APFSDS || 1,620 || 0.87 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| OTO HE || HE || 1,000 || 3.07 || 0 || 0.1 || 765 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="12" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! rowspan="2" | Arming distance (m)
! rowspan="2" | Trigger radius (m)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| OTO HE-VT || HE-VT* || 1,000 || 3.07 || 0 || 0.1 || 765 || 500 || 8 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''32''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Beretta MG42/59]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (200) || 1,200 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Try not to play this tank as a first spawn, as its APFSDS round is quite bad and will struggle to kill many tanks. Instead, this tank fares much better as a second or third spawn, when it can destroy weaker tanks of the enemy and eliminate helicopters and aircraft with its laser rangefinder and proximity fused shells. The fast speed when spaded is good for capping points in late game. The most dangerous enemies you will face will be enemy MBTs, as the M300 APFSDS shell struggles to frontally penetrate them or even one shot them from the side.

'''Pros:'''

* High rate of fire, thanks to its autoloader: 1 round every 2 seconds
* Thermals for gunner
* Commander sight
* Effective turret armour, can withstand some KE munitions and small-calibre autocannon fire
* Proximity fuse rounds, good for dealing with enemy aircraft

'''Cons:'''

* The hull isn't very well protected, unless hull-down you will not withstand much
* Crew placement is inadequate, crew members can get taken out if shot in the middle of the turret
* Poor mobility when stock
* APFSDS round does not penetrate much, you will need to know every opponents weak spots to make the best out out of each round

== History ==

During the late stages of the Cold War, OTO Melara, assisted by IVECO, had been designing a set of new multi-role armoured fighting vehicles in the hopes that enough interest would be generated to get the vehicles picked up either by the Italian Army or by possible foreign customers. Multiple different types of unique designs, with vastly different sets of armaments would arise during that era. These vehicles would however not generate much success in or indeed outside of Italy, but eventually during the '80s OTO Melara would finally come out with a design which would finally be picked up by the Italian army.

Despite a troubled development cycle, the VCC-80 Dardo would enter service and would continue to serve inside of the Italian army even till this day. Although the base version which is being used is comprised of the OTO TC-25 turret armed with a 25 mm Oerlikon-Buhrle cannon and TOW ATGMs, OTO Melara would heavily experiment on the previous versions known as the VCC-80.

The general configuration of the VCC-80 is conventional, being similar to other contemporary infantry fighting vehicles. What sets it apart is the design, being very well self-proportioned and well executed. The hull as well as the turret of the VCC-80 is welded from plates of aluminium alloys (5083 and 7020 type). These vehicles would be extremely useful in gaining valuable know-how, and allowed OTO Melara to see what worked and what didn't.

One of these cases would be the VCC-80/60, a one-off prototype which would utilize a very special weapon system known as the OTO T60A. The OTO T60A was a further development of the joint Italian-Israeli collaboration of the 60 mm High Velocity Medium Support (HVMS) weapon system. In short, both countries had disagreements which led to them going separate ways when developing the cannon.

Outside of Italy, many different turret variants would come out, such as the OTO T60M which would be manually loaded and tested unto a Fiat 6616 vehicle, and then the OTO T60A which would be autoloaded and installed on various different vehicles such as the OTO Melara AV-90, B1 Centauro, and of course, the VCC-80. The T60A would come in different versions however the one installed on the VCC-80/60 would be a special version which would mount a special armour kit at the front of the turret, this would surprisingly protect the crew quite a bit from KE munitions and low level auto-cannon fire. However the turret was not invincible, advanced APFSDS used on MBTs of the time would easily be able to penetrate the vehicle, same goes for the hull which was even less protected than the turret. It is important to note that this vehicle variant was primarily advertised to be a troop support vehicle, and was not designed to fight tanks 1-on-1, instead the idea was to keep it close to infantry where it could adequately provide support while also being able to be a platform which could repel any enemy helicopter attacks thanks to its special munitions. The 60 mm cannon could use proxy, HE and APFSDS rounds, which as previously mentioned would be autoloaded, specifically it could fire 1 round every 2 seconds. The vehicle sadly did not generate interest with the Italian Army, which instead opted for the variant armed with a 25 mm. It is unknown what happened to the 60 mm variant, however it is good to note that Poland at one point showed interest and decided to utilize the same weapon system for a vehicle called the 'BWP 2000'.

== Media ==


;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|4XbrWIv1L70|'''Italy's budget HSTV-L ft. nukes! - VCC8-/60''' - ''JustinPlays''}}

== See also ==


* [[Dardo]]
* [[VCC-80/30]]
* [[C13 T90]]

== External links ==


* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/434464-vcc-dardo/
* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/393556-variants-dardo-ifv-italian/

{{TankManufacturer OTO Melara}}
{{Italy light tanks}}

VCC-80/60

2022-02-12T09:48:16Z

U108217189: /* Survivability and armour */

{{About
| about = Italian light tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = VCC-80 Dardo (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=it_vcc_80_hitfist_60
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_VCC-80-60.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The VCC-80/60's armour is easily penetrated by all shells that it can encounter at it's BR. The engine and transmission will rarely stop KE munitions from penetrating from the front and the turret can be penetrated by any APFSDS that is fired at it. The turret cheeks have a decent amount of protection against CE munitions but will not stop ATGMs.

'''Armour type:'''

* Aluminum Alloy 5083 ( Hull Front & Roof )
* Aluminum Alloy 7039 ( Hull Sides, Turret )
* Composite Screen ( Gun Mantlet )


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 25 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis''
50 mm (60°) ''Lower Glacis''
| 25 mm ''Top'' 52 mm ''Bottom'' || 38 mm || 25 mm
|-
| Turret || 60 mm ''Turret front'' ~430 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 40 mm || 40 mm || 25 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick
* Tracks are 15 mm thick
* The front of the turret has a composite screen that provides ~100mm of protection against KE projectiles and ~450mm of protection against CE projectiles.
* The side of the turret has a composite screen that provides ~25mm of protection against KE projectiles and ~200mm of protection against CE projectiles.
* 2mm thick rubber-fabric screens cover the lower side of the hull
* 6mm RHA inside of the tank to act as a spall shield

{| class="wikitable"
!Additional Armour
!Front ( Slope )
!Side
!Rear
|-
|Hull
|8mm RHA (78°) ''Upper Glacis''
22mm RHA (38°) ''Lower Glacis''
|2mm ''Lower Side''
|N/A
|-
|Turret
|~450mm ''Turret Front''
|~160mm ''Turret Side''
|N/A
|}


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=806|rbMinHp=460}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Cannone da 60/70 (60 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Cannone da 60/70 (60 mm)|60 mm Cannone da 60/70]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 32 || rowspan="2" | -6°/+40° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 32.7 || 45.2 || 54.9 || 60.7 || 64.6 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 20.4 || 24.0 || 29.2 || 32.2 || 34.3
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M300 || APFSDS || 249 || 246 || 240 || 231 || 222 || 213
|-
| OTO HE || HE || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
| OTO HE-VT || HE-VT* || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M300 || APFSDS || 1,620 || 0.87 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| OTO HE || HE || 1,000 || 3.07 || 0 || 0.1 || 765 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="12" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! rowspan="2" | Arming distance (m)
! rowspan="2" | Trigger radius (m)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| OTO HE-VT || HE-VT* || 1,000 || 3.07 || 0 || 0.1 || 765 || 500 || 8 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''32''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Beretta MG42/59]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (200) || 1,200 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* High rate of fire, thanks to its autoloader: 1 round every 2 seconds
* Thermals for gunner
* Commander sight
* Effective turret armour, can withstand some KE munitions and small-calibre autocannon fire
* Proximity fuse rounds, good for dealing with enemy aircraft

'''Cons:'''

* The hull isn't very well protected, unless hull-down you will not withstand much
* Crew placement is inadequate, crew members can get taken out if shot in the middle of the turret
* Poor mobility when stock
* APFSDS round does not penetrate much, you will need to know every opponents weak spots to make the best out out of each round

== History ==

During the late stages of the Cold War, OTO Melara, assisted by IVECO, had been designing a set of new multi-role armoured fighting vehicles in the hopes that enough interest would be generated to get the vehicles picked up either by the Italian Army or by possible foreign customers. Multiple different types of unique designs, with vastly different sets of armaments would arise during that era. These vehicles would however not generate much success in or indeed outside of Italy, but eventually during the '80s OTO Melara would finally come out with a design which would finally be picked up by the Italian army.

Despite a troubled development cycle, the VCC-80 Dardo would enter service and would continue to serve inside of the Italian army even till this day. Although the base version which is being used is comprised of the OTO TC-25 turret armed with a 25 mm Oerlikon-Buhrle cannon and TOW ATGMs, OTO Melara would heavily experiment on the previous versions known as the VCC-80.

The general configuration of the VCC-80 is conventional, being similar to other contemporary infantry fighting vehicles. What sets it apart is the design, being very well self-proportioned and well executed. The hull as well as the turret of the VCC-80 is welded from plates of aluminium alloys (5083 and 7020 type). These vehicles would be extremely useful in gaining valuable know-how, and allowed OTO Melara to see what worked and what didn't.

One of these cases would be the VCC-80/60, a one-off prototype which would utilize a very special weapon system known as the OTO T60A. The OTO T60A was a further development of the joint Italian-Israeli collaboration of the 60 mm High Velocity Medium Support (HVMS) weapon system. In short, both countries had disagreements which led to them going separate ways when developing the cannon.

Outside of Italy, many different turret variants would come out, such as the OTO T60M which would be manually loaded and tested unto a Fiat 6616 vehicle, and then the OTO T60A which would be autoloaded and installed on various different vehicles such as the OTO Melara AV-90, B1 Centauro, and of course, the VCC-80. The T60A would come in different versions however the one installed on the VCC-80/60 would be a special version which would mount a special armour kit at the front of the turret, this would surprisingly protect the crew quite a bit from KE munitions and low level auto-cannon fire. However the turret was not invincible, advanced APFSDS used on MBTs of the time would easily be able to penetrate the vehicle, same goes for the hull which was even less protected than the turret. It is important to note that this vehicle variant was primarily advertised to be a troop support vehicle, and was not designed to fight tanks 1-on-1, instead the idea was to keep it close to infantry where it could adequately provide support while also being able to be a platform which could repel any enemy helicopter attacks thanks to its special munitions. The 60 mm cannon could use proxy, HE and APFSDS rounds, which as previously mentioned would be autoloaded, specifically it could fire 1 round every 2 seconds. The vehicle sadly did not generate interest with the Italian Army, which instead opted for the variant armed with a 25 mm. It is unknown what happened to the 60 mm variant, however it is good to note that Poland at one point showed interest and decided to utilize the same weapon system for a vehicle called the 'BWP 2000'.

== Media ==


;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|4XbrWIv1L70|'''Italy's budget HSTV-L ft. nukes! - VCC8-/60''' - ''JustinPlays''}}

== See also ==


* [[Dardo]]
* [[VCC-80/30]]
* [[C13 T90]]

== External links ==


* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/434464-vcc-dardo/
* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/393556-variants-dardo-ifv-italian/

{{TankManufacturer OTO Melara}}
{{Italy light tanks}}

VCC-80/60

2022-02-12T09:45:22Z

U108217189:

{{About
| about = Italian light tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = VCC-80 Dardo (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=it_vcc_80_hitfist_60
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_VCC-80-60.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The VCC-80/60's armour is easily penetrated by all shells that it can encounter at it's BR. The engine and transmission will rarely stop KE munitions from penetrating from the front and the turret can be penetrated by any APFSDS that is fired at it. The turret cheeks have a decent amount of protection against CE munitions but will not stop ATGMs.

'''Armour type:'''

* Aluminum Alloy 5083 ( Hull Front & Roof )
* Aluminum Alloy 7039 ( Hull Sides, Turret )
* Composite Screen ( Gun Mantlet )


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 25 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis''
50 mm (60°) ''Lower Glacis''
| 25 mm ''Top'' 52 mm ''Bottom'' || 38 mm || 25 mm
|-
| Turret || 60 mm ''Turret front'' ~430 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 40 mm || 40 mm || 25 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick
* Tracks are 15 mm thick
* The front of the turret has a composite screen that provides ~100mm of protection against KE projectiles and ~450mm of protection against CE projectiles.
* The side of the turret has a composite screen that provides ~25mm of protection against KE projectiles and ~200mm of protection against CE projectiles.
* 2mm thick rubber-fabric screens cover the lower side of the hull

{| class="wikitable"
!Additional Armour
!Front ( Slope )
!Side
!Rear
|-
|Hull
|8mm RHA (78°) ''Upper Glacis''
22mm RHA (38°) ''Lower Glacis''
|2mm ''Lower Side''
|N/A
|-
|Turret
|~450mm ''Turret Front''
|~160mm ''Turret Side''
|N/A
|}


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=806|rbMinHp=460}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Cannone da 60/70 (60 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Cannone da 60/70 (60 mm)|60 mm Cannone da 60/70]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 32 || rowspan="2" | -6°/+40° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 32.7 || 45.2 || 54.9 || 60.7 || 64.6 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 20.4 || 24.0 || 29.2 || 32.2 || 34.3
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M300 || APFSDS || 249 || 246 || 240 || 231 || 222 || 213
|-
| OTO HE || HE || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
| OTO HE-VT || HE-VT* || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M300 || APFSDS || 1,620 || 0.87 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| OTO HE || HE || 1,000 || 3.07 || 0 || 0.1 || 765 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="12" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! rowspan="2" | Arming distance (m)
! rowspan="2" | Trigger radius (m)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| OTO HE-VT || HE-VT* || 1,000 || 3.07 || 0 || 0.1 || 765 || 500 || 8 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''32''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Beretta MG42/59]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (200) || 1,200 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* High rate of fire, thanks to its autoloader: 1 round every 2 seconds
* Thermals for gunner
* Commander sight
* Effective turret armour, can withstand some KE munitions and small-calibre autocannon fire
* Proximity fuse rounds, good for dealing with enemy aircraft

'''Cons:'''

* The hull isn't very well protected, unless hull-down you will not withstand much
* Crew placement is inadequate, crew members can get taken out if shot in the middle of the turret
* Poor mobility when stock
* APFSDS round does not penetrate much, you will need to know every opponents weak spots to make the best out out of each round

== History ==

During the late stages of the Cold War, OTO Melara, assisted by IVECO, had been designing a set of new multi-role armoured fighting vehicles in the hopes that enough interest would be generated to get the vehicles picked up either by the Italian Army or by possible foreign customers. Multiple different types of unique designs, with vastly different sets of armaments would arise during that era. These vehicles would however not generate much success in or indeed outside of Italy, but eventually during the '80s OTO Melara would finally come out with a design which would finally be picked up by the Italian army.

Despite a troubled development cycle, the VCC-80 Dardo would enter service and would continue to serve inside of the Italian army even till this day. Although the base version which is being used is comprised of the OTO TC-25 turret armed with a 25 mm Oerlikon-Buhrle cannon and TOW ATGMs, OTO Melara would heavily experiment on the previous versions known as the VCC-80.

The general configuration of the VCC-80 is conventional, being similar to other contemporary infantry fighting vehicles. What sets it apart is the design, being very well self-proportioned and well executed. The hull as well as the turret of the VCC-80 is welded from plates of aluminium alloys (5083 and 7020 type). These vehicles would be extremely useful in gaining valuable know-how, and allowed OTO Melara to see what worked and what didn't.

One of these cases would be the VCC-80/60, a one-off prototype which would utilize a very special weapon system known as the OTO T60A. The OTO T60A was a further development of the joint Italian-Israeli collaboration of the 60 mm High Velocity Medium Support (HVMS) weapon system. In short, both countries had disagreements which led to them going separate ways when developing the cannon.

Outside of Italy, many different turret variants would come out, such as the OTO T60M which would be manually loaded and tested unto a Fiat 6616 vehicle, and then the OTO T60A which would be autoloaded and installed on various different vehicles such as the OTO Melara AV-90, B1 Centauro, and of course, the VCC-80. The T60A would come in different versions however the one installed on the VCC-80/60 would be a special version which would mount a special armour kit at the front of the turret, this would surprisingly protect the crew quite a bit from KE munitions and low level auto-cannon fire. However the turret was not invincible, advanced APFSDS used on MBTs of the time would easily be able to penetrate the vehicle, same goes for the hull which was even less protected than the turret. It is important to note that this vehicle variant was primarily advertised to be a troop support vehicle, and was not designed to fight tanks 1-on-1, instead the idea was to keep it close to infantry where it could adequately provide support while also being able to be a platform which could repel any enemy helicopter attacks thanks to its special munitions. The 60 mm cannon could use proxy, HE and APFSDS rounds, which as previously mentioned would be autoloaded, specifically it could fire 1 round every 2 seconds. The vehicle sadly did not generate interest with the Italian Army, which instead opted for the variant armed with a 25 mm. It is unknown what happened to the 60 mm variant, however it is good to note that Poland at one point showed interest and decided to utilize the same weapon system for a vehicle called the 'BWP 2000'.

== Media ==


;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|4XbrWIv1L70|'''Italy's budget HSTV-L ft. nukes! - VCC8-/60''' - ''JustinPlays''}}

== See also ==


* [[Dardo]]
* [[VCC-80/30]]
* [[C13 T90]]

== External links ==


* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/434464-vcc-dardo/
* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/393556-variants-dardo-ifv-italian/

{{TankManufacturer OTO Melara}}
{{Italy light tanks}}

VCC-80/60

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U108217189: started doing the VCC-80/60 description

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The VCC-80/60's armour is easily penetrated by all shells that it can encounter at it's BR. The engine and transmission will rarely stop KE munitions from penetrating from the front and the turret can be penetrated by any APFSDS that is fired at it. The turret cheeks have a decent amount of protection against CE munitions but will not stop ATGMs.

'''Armour type:'''

* Aluminum Alloy 5083 ( Hull Front & Roof )
* Aluminum Alloy 7039 ( Hull Sides, Turret )
* Composite Screen ( Gun Mantlet )


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 25 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis''
50 mm (60°) ''Lower Glacis''
| 25 mm ''Top'' 52 mm ''Bottom'' || 38 mm || 25 mm
|-
| Turret || 60 mm ''Turret front'' ~430 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 40 mm || 40 mm || 25 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
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{{main|Cannone da 60/70 (60 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Cannone da 60/70 (60 mm)|60 mm Cannone da 60/70]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 32 || rowspan="2" | -6°/+40° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 32.7 || 45.2 || 54.9 || 60.7 || 64.6 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00 || rowspan="2" | 2.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 20.4 || 24.0 || 29.2 || 32.2 || 34.3
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M300 || APFSDS || 249 || 246 || 240 || 231 || 222 || 213
|-
| OTO HE || HE || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
| OTO HE-VT || HE-VT* || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M300 || APFSDS || 1,620 || 0.87 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| OTO HE || HE || 1,000 || 3.07 || 0 || 0.1 || 765 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="12" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! rowspan="2" | Arming distance (m)
! rowspan="2" | Trigger radius (m)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| OTO HE-VT || HE-VT* || 1,000 || 3.07 || 0 || 0.1 || 765 || 500 || 8 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''32''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Beretta MG42/59 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Beretta MG42/59]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (200) || 1,200 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* High rate of fire, thanks to its autoloader: 1 round every 2 seconds
* Thermals for gunner
* Commander sight
* Effective turret armour, can withstand some KE munitions and small-calibre autocannon fire
* Proximity fuse rounds, good for dealing with enemy aircraft

'''Cons:'''

* The hull isn't very well protected, unless hull-down you will not withstand much
* Crew placement is inadequate, crew members can get taken out if shot in the middle of the turret
* Poor mobility when stock
* APFSDS round does not penetrate much, you will need to know every opponents weak spots to make the best out out of each round

== History ==

During the late stages of the Cold War, OTO Melara, assisted by IVECO, had been designing a set of new multi-role armoured fighting vehicles in the hopes that enough interest would be generated to get the vehicles picked up either by the Italian Army or by possible foreign customers. Multiple different types of unique designs, with vastly different sets of armaments would arise during that era. These vehicles would however not generate much success in or indeed outside of Italy, but eventually during the '80s OTO Melara would finally come out with a design which would finally be picked up by the Italian army.

Despite a troubled development cycle, the VCC-80 Dardo would enter service and would continue to serve inside of the Italian army even till this day. Although the base version which is being used is comprised of the OTO TC-25 turret armed with a 25 mm Oerlikon-Buhrle cannon and TOW ATGMs, OTO Melara would heavily experiment on the previous versions known as the VCC-80.

The general configuration of the VCC-80 is conventional, being similar to other contemporary infantry fighting vehicles. What sets it apart is the design, being very well self-proportioned and well executed. The hull as well as the turret of the VCC-80 is welded from plates of aluminium alloys (5083 and 7020 type). These vehicles would be extremely useful in gaining valuable know-how, and allowed OTO Melara to see what worked and what didn't.

One of these cases would be the VCC-80/60, a one-off prototype which would utilize a very special weapon system known as the OTO T60A. The OTO T60A was a further development of the joint Italian-Israeli collaboration of the 60 mm High Velocity Medium Support (HVMS) weapon system. In short, both countries had disagreements which led to them going separate ways when developing the cannon.

Outside of Italy, many different turret variants would come out, such as the OTO T60M which would be manually loaded and tested unto a Fiat 6616 vehicle, and then the OTO T60A which would be autoloaded and installed on various different vehicles such as the OTO Melara AV-90, B1 Centauro, and of course, the VCC-80. The T60A would come in different versions however the one installed on the VCC-80/60 would be a special version which would mount a special armour kit at the front of the turret, this would surprisingly protect the crew quite a bit from KE munitions and low level auto-cannon fire. However the turret was not invincible, advanced APFSDS used on MBTs of the time would easily be able to penetrate the vehicle, same goes for the hull which was even less protected than the turret. It is important to note that this vehicle variant was primarily advertised to be a troop support vehicle, and was not designed to fight tanks 1-on-1, instead the idea was to keep it close to infantry where it could adequately provide support while also being able to be a platform which could repel any enemy helicopter attacks thanks to its special munitions. The 60 mm cannon could use proxy, HE and APFSDS rounds, which as previously mentioned would be autoloaded, specifically it could fire 1 round every 2 seconds. The vehicle sadly did not generate interest with the Italian Army, which instead opted for the variant armed with a 25 mm. It is unknown what happened to the 60 mm variant, however it is good to note that Poland at one point showed interest and decided to utilize the same weapon system for a vehicle called the 'BWP 2000'.

== Media ==


;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|4XbrWIv1L70|'''Italy's budget HSTV-L ft. nukes! - VCC8-/60''' - ''JustinPlays''}}

== See also ==


* [[Dardo]]
* [[VCC-80/30]]
* [[C13 T90]]

== External links ==


* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/434464-vcc-dardo/
* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/393556-variants-dardo-ifv-italian/

{{TankManufacturer OTO Melara}}
{{Italy light tanks}}