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Chi-Ha Kai

2023-04-15T20:52:52Z

U107001428: This is a regular Chi-Ha, not a Kai.

{{About
| about = Japanese medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other variants
| link = Chi-Ha (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=jp_type_97_kai
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ({{Annotation|九七式中戦車改「チハ」|Kyūnana-Shiki Chū-Sensha Kai [Chi-Ha]}}) was the most capable Japanese tank that saw combat in WWII. Being an upgrade on the [[Chi-Ha]], it was armed with a new turret (ShinHōtō) boasting the [[Type 1 (47 mm)]] cannon to compete with late 1930s armour. Proving themselves very successful in the early Pacific campaign through Corregidor Island and Malaya, effectiveness fell flat when faced against the M4 Shermans of the 1940s, and as a result created the negative stigma of Japanese tank quality.

The Chi-Ha Kai was introduced along with the initial Japanese Ground Forces tree in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]]. It serves as the true introduction to Japanese combat tanks being equipped with higher velocity cannons and relatively dangerous post-penetration damage. Being built on the [[Chi-Ha]], the only main difference is the turret, mobility will remain the same but comes with a more capable cannon and an additional crew member.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


The {{PAGENAME}} has little to no armour against its common opponents like the [[Pz.II (Disambiguation)|Pz.II]]. The hull is identical to its predecessor, the [[Chi-Ha]]; while the turret is new, it has no better protection as well. With only 25 mm of armour on the turret cheeks and the frontal plate, and 20-25 mm at the hull sides, its protection is comparable with light tanks at its battle rating. The thin armour might, with some luck, protect against some autocannon shells while angling, or low penetration shells from range, while the highly sloped front glacis plate can also ricochet poorly aimed smaller calibre rounds. However, in general the armour should not be relied upon.

Unfortunately, when being hit and penetrated, the {{PAGENAME}} is usually destroyed with one or two shots. However, this tank has a fairly small frontal profile, making it harder to be hit. Also, for the guns lacking post-penetration damage, the {{PAGENAME}} has an alright survivability, as it has a total of 5 crews and they are fairly spaced out due to the long hull. The huge transmission system at the front of the tank can also serve as further protection for the crew members, absorbing penetrating hits at the price of disabling the transmission, making the tank immobile and thus vulnerable.

'''Armour type:'''

*Rolled homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 25 mm (11-31°) ''Front plate'' 15-17 mm (62-80°) ''Front glacis'' 15 mm (37-59°) ''Lower glacis'' || 25 mm (25 / 40°) ''Top'' 25 mm ''Bottom'' || 15 mm (69°) ''Top'' 20 mm (5-57°) || 12 mm
|-
| Turret|| 25 mm (9-10°) ''Turret front'' 30-35 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 25 mm (9-10°) || 25 mm || 10 mm
|-
| Cupola || 25 mm || 25 mm || 25 mm || 10 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and tracks are 15 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=263|rbMinHp=150}}

In general, this tank can get to pretty much anywhere an average medium tank can get to. The engine of the {{PAGENAME}} is not powerful at all, but luckily the tank itself only weighs 15 tons, therefore giving it an average power-to-weight ratio. The 40 km/h top speed is pretty useful as it reaches this speed easily. The turning ability is not ideal, as its tracks are long, narrow and close to each other, making it slow and sluggish in a turn.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Type 1 (47 mm)}}The primary improvement that the {{PAGENAME}} has over its predecessor is the new 47 mm high-velocity gun. This gun boasts much higher penetration with APHE over the short-barreled 57 mm gun, and with the much faster shell, it also much easier to hit distant targets with. Unfortunately, as with almost all Imperial Japanese Army tanks, the 47 mm Type 1 APHE shell is not capped, and thus tends to perform poorly against sloped armour. Nevertheless, if it does penetrate, the shell has a respectable explosive filler that is usually enough to knock out the smaller tanks the {{PAGENAME}} usually faces in one hit. Larger tanks with larger crews such as the [[T-28]] may not be killed with one penetration.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 1 (47 mm)|47 mm Type 1]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 104 || rowspan="2" | -15°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Vertical || 14.28 || 19.76 || 24.00 || 26.54 || 28.24 || rowspan="2" | 4.29 || rowspan="2" | 3.80 || rowspan="2" | 3.50 || rowspan="2" | 3.30
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 8.92 || 10.50 || 12.75 || 14.10 || 15.00
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:Type 1 (47 mm)/Ammunition|Type 1 APHE}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''104''' || 75 ''(+29)'' || 71 ''(+33)'' || 66 ''(+38)'' || 54 ''(+50)'' || 9 ''(+95)'' || 1 ''(+103)'' || Yes
|-
|}
'''Note''':

* Turret empty: 66 ''(+38)'' shells.

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|Type 97 (7.7 mm)}}Like most Imperial Japanese tanks, the {{PAGENAME}} does not have a coaxial machine gun, and thus must rely on the turret pintle-mounted machine gun. The hull mounted machine gun has very restricted angles of fire and is also mounted fairly low in the hull, thus its utility is fairly limited. The Type 97 machine guns are fed by 20-round box magazines, which along with the small calibre severely limits the effectiveness of the pintle-mounted machine gun against aircraft.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 97 (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Hull || 3,000 (20) || 499 || -8°/+10° || ±15°
|-
| Pintle || 1,000 (20) || 499 || ±20° || -10°/+60°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Chi-Ha Kai (Kai means "improved) is an upgrade of the Chi-Ha that replaces the low-velocity 57 mm gun with the very good 47 mm Type 1 tank gun and adds one more crew to make a total of five with three in the turret. Compared to other rank I vehicles this gun is powerful and very good.

The 5th crewman, in a three-man turret, improves survivability accordingly. However it is still a lightly armoured vehicle with only moderate mobility, so the tactics used with the Chi-Ha are to stay close to teammates and always play sneaky remain the most important.

Another problem is that the Chi-Ha Kai retains the hand-cranked turret, which is quite slow to turn. So the best idea is to plan ahead before any attacks, think where the enemy may be and find a place to hide the bulky tank from the enemy and wait for the enemy to come towards the position. Now, this is somewhat important "Don't look for the enemy, let the enemy look for the Chi-Ha Kai.", Of course, the Chi-Ha Kai could still go look for the enemy, but always be on alert and make sure to have a friend for firing support.

The engine provides adequate power - the power-weight ratio is comparable with other tanks of the late 1930's - but this tank was built from 1942 onwards so it is low compared to contemporary designs.

'''Enemies worth noting:'''

* B1 bis / ter: the B1 can easily destroy the Chi-Ha when using both of its guns, but when angling only the 47 mm gun is available, meaning that the Chi-Ha can take some more hits. It is very hard to destroy the Char B1 from a distance, so get as close as possible with the ideal range being no more than 300 m. Aim at their flat hull side, turret side, hull cannon mount or the driving compartment (the near-vertical frontal armour right below the turret). Upon penetrating, the Chi-Ha's 47 mm APHE can knock out several crews, and your quick reload allows you to finish the rest off in time. However if the B1 has folded armour plates on their hull sides then it is a B1 ter, avoid shooting at its sides.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Improved sloped armour compared to the reserve vehicles
* Quite fast (up to 44 km/h), allowing it to get to certain spots in time
* Lovely climbing ability combined with the amazing -15 degrees gun depression, it is great at mountain combat
* Has a vertical stabiliser which most tanks don't have, allowing the Chi-Ha Kai to get the first shot off
* Decent cannon can frontally penetrate common targets like [[M3 Lee]] and [[T-70]]
* Great turning ability in low gear

'''Cons:'''

* 47 mm armament may be underpowered in an uptier, especially in frontal engagements against a [[B1 bis]] or [[Matilda III]]
* Thin armour can be penetrated by 20 mm / .50 cal up close
* Rifle calibre turret-mounted machine gun with small 20-round magazine, severely restricting utility against aircraft

== History ==

{{main|Chi-Ha (Family)|l1=History of the Type 97 Chi-Ha}}

===Development===
[[File:ShinHoTo Turret Testing.jpg|alt=Unarmed Kai Turret On A Type 1 Chi-He Hull|thumb|Unarmed Kai Turret On A [[Chi-He|Type 1 Chi-He]] Hull]]
In 1939, the [[Chi-Ha|Type 97 Chi-Ha]] first saw service in the Imperial Japanese Army. It was an improvement over its predecessor the [[I-Go Ko|Type 89 I-Go]] with its improved road speed and armour. However, it still had the same low-velocity 57 mm armament. While adequate against infantry and fortifications, it lacks in anti-tank power to slug it out in a tank-to-tank fight. This came to light when Colonel Seinosuke Sonoda, commander of the 7th Tank Regiment, called for an improvement in the Type 97's armament to the newer 47 mm gun when it was found that the Japanese tanks had trouble fighting even the American [[M3 Stuart (Family)|M3 light tanks]]. The request led to the retooling of the factories prepared to produce the 47 mm armed [[Chi-He|Type 1 Chi-He]] to instead integrate the turret onto the existing Type 97 chassis. This improved variant of the Type 97 medium tank design was called the Type 97-Kai Shinhoto Chi-Ha (Kai for "Improved" and Shinhoto for "New turret").<ref name="ZalogaChiHavsSherman">Zaloga Steven. ''M4 Sherman vs Type 97 Chi-Ha: The Pacific 1945'' Great Britain: Osprey Publishing Ltd., 2012</ref> This new Type 97 would start mass-production in early 1942 next to the original Type 97 model until the 47 mm gun production can keep up with the demand, which did and the Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai became the standard Type 97 model from 1942 to 1943. Up to 930 Type 97 Chi-Ha Kais would be produced in this production lifetime.<ref name="ZalogaJapaneseTank">Zaloga Steven. ''Japanese Tanks 1939-1945'' Great Britain: Osprey Publishing Ltd., 2007</ref>

===Combat Usage===
====1942-1943====
[[File:Chi-Ha (Kai) 11th Regiment.jpg|left|thumb|[[Chi-Ha (Family)|Chi-Ha']]<nowiki/>s Of The 11th Regiment]]
The new Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai first saw use in the Philippines campaign, where the complaint first arose of the inadequacy of the Japanese tank armament. Five were used in the Matsuoka Detachment during the Corregidor landing on 5 May 1942. These tanks helped surmount American defences, which were inadequate in dealing with tank assaults. This eventually led to the Japanese victory in the Philippines on May 6. After these conquests, Japanese doctrinal changes from an offensive standpoint to a defensive one led to a shift in priorities. The defence of Imperial Japan's new territorial gain required a large navy and airforce to provide support in a large distance. The tanks, seen as an offensive type of weapon, were deemed unnecessary in the priorities attached with the industry. Combined with the rejection of any notion of hostility towards the Soviet Union, which would require a large tank force, led to a drop in tank production from priority A1 to a flat D. While tank development continued to progress for improved tanks, this led to the Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai to be the best tank Japan could field out to their garrison stationed in China and the Pacific islands, meaning this was all they had against the incoming American, Commonwealth, and Chinese ground forces.<ref name="ZalogaChiHavsSherman" />

{{Break}}

Regardless, the Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai trucked onwards in the IJA. In the 1942 campaign in the Southwest Pacific, the islands were mainly forested and hilly so it produced an unsuitable environment for tanks. A dozen were used at Guadalcanal as part of the Sumiyoshi Force landing in October as the 1st Independent Tank Company. These tanks helped the Japanese attack the Matanika River, but the Chi-Ha Kais was simply knocked out by 37 mm anti-tank gun the U.S. Marines brought in, leading to an end to armoured operations. The tank force saw more usage in the Central Pacific islands, but in these stages at 1943 and 1944, they faced against superior [[M4|M4 Sherman]] fielded by America. With the increasing vulnerability of Japanese tanks to American anti-tank capabilities, commanders often resort to keeping the tanks in entrenched and fixed locations to reduce their exposure and hopefully catch an enemy medium tank by the sides, which the 47 mm can penetrate.<ref name="ZalogaJapaneseTank" />

====1944-1945====
The Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai would see more usage in the Battle of Guam and Saipan when tanks from the 9th Tank Regiment were sent to defend these two vitally important islands. As the Type 97 Chi-Ha Kais were the only tanks able to reasonably defeat the M4 Shermans, it was a substantial upgrade in the Japanese defences in comparison to its previous battles. The Americans invaded Saipan on 15 June 1944 along with two tank battalions consisting of [[M4A2|M4A2 Shermans]] and [[M3A1 Stuart|flamethrower-equipped M3A1 Stuarts]]. Another weapon to add to the U.S. invasion arsenal was the bazooka, which now presented any U.S. infantry formation with the power to destroy even the heaviest armoured Japanese tank. In the first three days of the Battle of Saipan, the armoured forces were thrown against the American beachhead forces. The first two days had small sporadic units attack the American beachheads, all were annihilated by American bazookas and tank guns. On the night of June 16-17, the entire 9th Tank Regiment's forces of 44 tanks attacked the American lines. Illuminated by navy light flares, all the Japanese tanks in the one of the largest Japanese tank attack of the Pacific war were subsequently destroyed by 37 mm anti-tank guns, M4 Sherman's 75 mm guns, and 60 mm Bazookas. Only a dozen of the tanks committed survived that encounter, but these would only fall victims to the Marine's tanks later in the campaign. These same events happened in Guam, which also had the Chi-Ha Kais of the 9th Tank Regiment, and further showed the technological disparity between the two nations.<ref name="ZalogaJapaneseTank" />
[[File:Chi-Ha Kai Destroyed.jpg|alt=Knocked out etrenched Chi-Ha Kai at Iwo Jima|thumb|Knocked out, entrenched standard Chi-Ha at Iwo Jima]]
Relatively more successful usage of the Japanese tanks was during the Battle for the Philippines that took place from 1944 to 1945. The Japanese employed the 2nd Armoured Division on Luzon while the Americans fielded up to 500 armoured fighting vehicles in 10 different battalions. While outnumbered, a change in battle strategy gave the Japanese armoured forces a fighting chance. The Japanese recognition of the weakness in the Japanese's armour led to many commanders hiding their tanks in dense foliage, waiting for American tanks to come by to nail them in their side armour. Though the battle was still lost, the entrenchment of the tanks in static positions and the strategy of ambushing incoming Allied armour allowed the Japanese tanks to dish out more damage on the Americans than had they charge into the fray like in Saipan. The strangest use of the tanks in this campaign, and perhaps as a show of Japanese desperation, was the use of explosives on five tanks used in a "kamikaze" fashion to ram Sherman tanks before exploding; this strategy took out two Sherman tanks.<ref name="ZalogaChiHavsSherman" />

By the last years of the war, Japanese armour hopelessly obsolete. Iwo Jima had only a portion of the 26th Tank Regiment with a few Chi-Ha tanks in pillbox formats. Okinawa had 13 Ha-Gos and 14 Chi-Ha Kais facing against 800 Allied tanks. The Burma Campaign that lasted from 1943 to 1945 had the 14th Tank Regiment with Chi-Ha Kais annihilated by British and Indian forces with [[M4|Shermans]] and [[M3 Lee|M3 Lees]], a show of how obsolete tanks of the European theatre can be superior to even the best Japanese tanks. Perhaps the final blow to Japan's armour was in Manchuria when the Soviet Union invaded in August 1945. The Soviets, whose standard tanks were now the [[T-34-85]] and the [[IS-2]], fielded up to 5,000 armoured vehicles against Japan's 1st and 9th Tank Brigade. The final Japanese tank battle came on August 18, three days after Japan's surrender with the United States, when Soviet forces landed at Shimushu Island. The 11th Tank Regiment, even with the knowledge of their country's surrender, attacked the Soviet forces under the rights of "self-defence if attacked" with 39 Type 97s and 25 Type 95s. The fighting between the Japanese armour and Soviet forces happened until August 20, when a cease-fire is placed.<ref name="ZalogaJapaneseTank" />

====Post World War II====
Even after the war, the Type 97's fight was not over. A large quantity left behind by Japanese forces in China were consequently snatched up and used by both sides in the Chinese Civil War. A few of the Japanese tanks captured by Soviet forces were also supplied to the Chinese and Koreans. The French also used a few captured Japanese tanks in an ad hoc unit known as 'Commando Blindé du Cambodge' in the First Indochina War. <ref name="ZalogaJapaneseTank" />

== Media ==

{{main|Chi-Ha (Family)#Media|l1=Media of the Type 97 Chi-Ha}}

;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=jp_type_97_chi_ha_kai Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
{{Skin-gallery
|market|ugcitem_1000377|Chi-Ha Kai of the 9th Sensha Rentai.png|Camo "9th Sensha Rentai"
|market|ugcitem_1000536|Chi-Ha Kai 'Tigers of Corregidor'.png|Camo "Tigers of Corregidor"
}}

== See also ==


;[[Chi-Ha (Family)|Related Development]]

* [[Chi-Ha]] - (Base hull)
* [[Chi-He (Family)|Chi-He]] - (Successor)
* [[Chi-Ha LG|Chi-Ha Long Gun]] - (Navy variant)
* [[Chi-Ha Short Gun]] - (Navy variant)
* [[Ho-Ni I]] / [[Ho-Ni III|III]] - (Gun tank variant(s))
* [[Ho-Ro]] - (Howitzer tank variant)

;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

* [[Pz.III (Disambiguation)|Pz.III (Family)]] - (Early models)
* [[LT-38 (Family)]]
* [[M15/42]]
* [[Lago I]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/4272-development-newsflash-from-igromir-2016-new-ships-and-first-look-at-japanese-ground-forces-en/|[News] Newsflash from IgroMir 2016! New ships and first look at Japanese Ground Forces! (Type 95 & Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai)]]

===References===
<references />

{{TankManufacturer Mitsubishi}}
{{Japan medium tanks}}

2C bis

2023-01-01T19:15:19Z

U107001428: According to my sources, only one 2C bis was created.

{{Specs-Card
|code=fr_char_2c_bis
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} French heavy tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Apex Predators"]].

Often called a "super heavy" tank, the 2C bis is a modification of the FCM 2C. It differs from the standard 2C primarily in that it mounts a cast turret housing a 155 mm howitzer. It also lacks the machine gun mounts on the sides of the vehicle. Only one 2C, No. 99 "Champagne" was modified in 1923, it was unmodified and returned to standard in 1939.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


Being comprised of large, flat, vertical armour plates, the 2C bis does not have a revolutionary armour scheme. Many dedicated anti-tank guns such as the Soviet 45 mm 45-K, the US 37 mm M5/M6 guns, and the British 40 mm 2-pounder can penetrate this tank frontally from medium to short range without any problem. Larger cannons will have no issue dealing with the 2C bis. Autocannons can also be a threat, especially from the thinly armoured sides. However, some slight angling can somewhat mitigate this issue. The large tracks of the 2C bis can obscure the front plate and make it harder to penetrate.

The 2C bis' true survivability lies in its crew count. 12 crew members are place throughout the vehicle, meaning that even if the crew up front is entirely knocked out with an APHE shell, there are a number of aft-facing members ready to replace them. This can give the 2C bis a near comical amount of survivability as it can be continuously penetrated, seemingly disabled, and suddenly it can return to battle.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, side, side skirts, roof)
* Cast homogeneous armour (turret, 155 mm gun mantlet, cupola)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 49 mm (0°) ''Front plate'' 22 mm (69°) ''Front glacis'' 15 mm (73°) Lower glacis
|22 mm (0°)|| 15 mm (62°) ''Top'' 22 mm (0°) ''Bottom''
| 13 mm (0°)
|-
| Turret || 35 mm ''Turret front'' 35 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 35 mm || 35 mm || 35 mm
|-
| Cupola || 30 mm || 30 mm ||30 mm||30 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

The 2C bis utilizes a diesel-electric hybrid drive system. Two Sautter-Harlé inline 6 diesel engines power electric generators which then engage with electric motors at the rear sprocket. Like the Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P, this means that the 2C bis can neutral steer and theoretically go just as fast in reverse. In addition, the 2C bis accelerates to its top speed quickly, but this is only 15 km/h. The 2C will certainly be the last tank to the fight, but on the other hand the quick reverse acceleration can prove helpful in close quarters.

{{tankMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Schneider 155 C (155 mm)}}

The 2C bis has a 155 mm Schneider howitzer in its two man cast turret. Its velocity is extremely low and its reload rate is abysmal. The armament takes time and practice to utilize effectively, especially with its limited elevation and depression angles. However, with 7.7 kg of filler, the Mle1915 shell will obliterate whatever it touches at the BR of the 2C bis. As long as the shell makes contact anywhere, it is almost guaranteed to knock a vehicle out. Open-topped vehicles can even be knocked out by splash damage, as this is basically an artillery piece on tracks.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Schneider 155 C (155 mm)|155 mm Schneider 155 C]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 24 || rowspan="2" | ±10° || rowspan="2" | ±100° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Mle1915 || HE || 58 || 58 || 58 || 58 || 58 || 58
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Mle1915 || HE || 240 || 43.2 || 0 || 0.1 || 7.65 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''24''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|Hotchkiss Mle 1914 (8 mm)}}

The rear turret has decent horizontal arcs but suffers from rather poor vertical arcs and slow rotation speed, making this turret very situational. The frontal machine gun can be used to knock small obstacles out of the way as to prevent the HE shell from detonating on them.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Hotchkiss Mle 1914 (8 mm)|8 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1914]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Hull || 5,000 (250) || 450 || __° || __°
|-
| Rear || 5,000 (250) || 450 || __° || -130°/+120°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

As stated before, slight angling at longer ranges can increase survivability and make the armour somewhat useful. If you are not sure about how far a target is, use the rangefinder, even at close range. It is actually rather fast in the 2C bis, and a miss will have you waiting a long time to reload. The dreadful top speed will sometimes work in your favour, being that the first "wave" of enemy vehicles has already been dealt with. The 2C bis does not do well against multiple vehicles. The quick reverse acceleration can work in your favour in urban environments.

Sitting in the rear and lobbing artillery at the enemy is a possible strategy, but the low velocity and high arc of the rounds make this difficult. Eventually, a dedicated anti-tank SPG will likely disable or knock out the vehicle. The 2C bis performs better at mid-range encounters where tracking targets can be easier. Surprisingly, despite its size, getting "Shadow Strikes" is possible in urban areas. Use your machine guns to clear obstacles that may trigger the HE shell's fuse prematurely.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Has a dozen crew members, highly survivable
* 155 mm howitzer will decimate anything even above its BR
* Neutral steering gives the tank decent reflex mobility
* Can climb over rough terrain with ease due to its World War I design

'''Cons:'''

* Extremely huge, easily spotted and targeted by any enemy
* 155 mm howitzer has very long reload time and awful shell velocity
* Awfully slow top speed
* Armour is mediocre at best
* Limited turret traverse, very prone to flanking
* Poor elevation and depression angles

== History ==

The FCM 2C was a French "super heavy" tank designed to conquer the "no man's land" of WW1. It was dimensionally the largest tank ever produced, and for a time the heaviest. Ready for production by February 1918, the war ended before any of the vehicles were completed, and so the order of 300 was eventually reduced to just 10, finished in 1921. The standard 2C mounted a 75 mm APX 1897 field gun, similar to the cannon which would be mounted on the [[M3 GMC]] tank destroyer. The 2C had many innovative design features for the time, including a hybrid drive, leaf spring suspension, the world's first three-man turret, and stroboscopic cupolas. All of the 2Cs were named after ancient regions of France.

One 2C, No. 99 "Champagne", was given a new two-man cast turret with a 155 mm howitzer. The commander was given his own compartment behind the turret. The side machine gun ports were also removed. This variant would be known as the 2C bis. Eventually, Champagne would be returned to its original configuration and its turret would be used as a makeshift static emplacement in the Mareth Line. Champagne would be the only 2C to survive the invasion of France, with the other nine tanks either being scuttled by their own crew to prevent capture, or breaking down.

== Media ==


{{Youtube-gallery|QmaE2bomv14|'''Giant Derp Land Battleship - 155mm 70 ton Monster''' - ''PhlyDaily''|vdHmTGTPa20|'''Trenchwarmer - Char 2C''' - ''Tank Encyclopedia''}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/8033-development-char-2bis-the-beast-of-champagne-en|[Devblog] Char 2bis: the Beast of Champagne]]
* [https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/france/fcm-2c.php <nowiki>[Tank Encyclopedia]</nowiki> Char 2C]

{{France heavy tanks}}
{{France premium ground vehicles}}

2C bis

2022-12-27T19:07:59Z

U107001428: /* Description */ Expanded the article greatly. Much information used from my own article on the 2C, found on the Tank Encyclopedia

{{Specs-Card
|code=fr_char_2c_bis
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} French heavy tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Apex Predators"]]. Often called a "super heavy" tank, the 2C bis is a modification of the FCM 2C. It differs from the standard 2C primarily in that it mounts a cast turret housing a 155 mm howitzer. It also lacks the machine gun mounts on the sides of the vehicle. Only one FCM 2C was modified in this way: No. 99 "Champagne".

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
Being comprised of large, flat, vertical armor plates, the 2C bis does not have a revolutionary armor scheme. Many dedicated anti-tank guns such as the Soviet 45 mm 45K, the US 37 mm M5/M6 guns, and the British 40 mm 2-pounder can penetrate this tank frontally from medium to short range without any problem. Larger cannons will have no issue dealing with the 2C bis. Autocannons can also be a threat, especially from the thinly armored sides. However, some slight angling can somewhat mitigate this issue. The large tracks of the 2C bis can obscure the front plate and make it harder to penetrate.

The 2C bis' true survivability lies in it's crew count. 12 crew members are place throughout the vehicle, meaning that even if the crew up front is entirely knocked out with an APHE shell, there are a number of aft-facing members ready to replace them. This can give the 2C bis a near comical amount of survivability as it can be continuously penetrated, seemingly disabled, and suddenly it can return to battle.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, side, side skirts, roof)
* Cast homogeneous armour (turret, 155 mm gun mantlet, cupola)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 49 mm (0°) ''Front plate'' 22 mm (69°) ''Front glacis'' 15 mm (73°) Lower glacis
|22 mm (0°)|| 15 mm (62°) ''Top'' 22 mm (0°) ''Bottom''
| 13 mm (0°)
|-
| Turret || 35 mm ''Turret front'' 35 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 35 mm || 35 mm || 35 mm
|-
| Cupola || 30 mm || 30 mm ||30 mm||30 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

The 2C bis utilizes a diesel-electric hybrid drive system. Two Sautter-Harlé inline 6 diesel engines power electric generators which then engage with electric motors at the rear sprocket. Like the Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P, this means that the 2C bis can neutral steer and theoretically go just as fast in reverse. In addition, the 2C bis accelerates to it's top speed quickly, but this is only 15 km/h. The 2C will certainly be the last tank to the fight, but on the other hand the quick reverse acceleration can prove helpful in close quarters.

{{tankMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Schneider 155 C (155 mm)}}The 2C bis has a 155 mm Schneider howitzer in it's two man cast turret. It's velocity is extremely low and it's reload rate is abysmal. The armament takes time and practice to utilize effectively, especially with it's limited elevation and depression angles. However, with 58 mm of HE penetration, the Mle1915 shell will obliterate whatever it touches at the BR of the 2C bis. As long as the shell makes contact anywhere, it is almost guaranteed to knock a vehicle out. Open topped vehicles can even be knocked out by splash damage, as this is basically a ln artillery piece on tracks.

''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Schneider 155 C (155 mm)|155 mm Schneider 155 C]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 24 || rowspan="2" | ±10° || rowspan="2" | ±100° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Mle1915 || HE || 58 || 58 || 58 || 58 || 58 || 58
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Mle1915 || HE || 240 || 43.2 || 0 || 0.1 || 7.65 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''24''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|Hotchkiss Mle 1914 (8 mm)}}

The rear turret has decent horizontal arcs but suffers from rather poor vertical arcs and slow rotation speed, making this turret very situational. The frontal machine gun can be used to knock small obstacles out of the way as to prevent the HE shell from detonating on them.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Hotchkiss Mle 1914 (8 mm)|8 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1914]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Hull || 5,000 (250) || 450 || __° || __°
|-
| Rear || 5,000 (250) || 450 || __° || -130°/+120°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

As stated before, slight angling at longer ranges can increase survivability and make the armor somewhat useful. If you are not sure about how far a target is, use the rangefinder, even at close range. It is actually rather fast in the 2C bis, and a miss will have you waiting a long time to reload. The dreadful top speed will sometimes work in your favor, being that the "first wave" of enemy vehicles has already been dealt with. The 2C bis does not do well against multiple vehicles. The quick reverse acceleration can work in your favor in urban environments.

Sitting in the rear and lobbing artillery at the enemy is a possible strategy, but the low velocity and high arc of the rounds make this difficult. Eventually, a dedicated anti-tank SPG will likely disable or knock out the vehicle. The 2C bis performs better at mid-range encounters where tracking targets can be easier. Surprisingly despite it's size, getting "Shadow Strikes" is possible in urban areas. Use your machine guns to clear obstacles that may trigger the HE fuse.

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

* Has a dozen of crew members, highly survivable.
* 155 mm howitzer will decimate anything near it's BR.
* Neutral steering.
* Can conquer any terrain with ease.

'''Cons:'''

* Literally the largest tank ever produced, makes a very easy target
* Very slow.
* HE rounds useless against spaced armor, fuse can activate on debris.
* Mediocre armor.
* Limited turret traverse.
* Poor elevation and depression angles.
*

== History ==

<nowiki><ref>The FCM 2C was a French "super heavy" tank designed to conquer the "no man's land" of WW1. It was the dimensionally largest tank ever produced, and for a time the heaviest. Ready for production by February 1918, the war ended before any of the vehicles were completed, and so the order of 300 was eventually reduced to just 10, finished in 1921. The standard 2C mounted a 75 mm APX 1897 field gun, similar to the cannon which would be mounted on the M3 GMC tank destroyer. The 2C had many innovative design features for the time, including a hybrid drive, leaf spring suspension, the world's first three man turret, and stroboscopic cupolas. All of the 2C's were named after ancient regions of France.</nowiki>

One 2C, No. 99 "Champagne" was given a new two man cast turret with a 155 mm howitzer. The commander was given his own compartment behind the turret. The side machine gun ports were also removed. This variant would be known as the 2C bis. Eventually, Champagne would be returned to it's original configuration and it's turret would be used as a makeshift static emplacement in the Mareth Line. Champagne would be the only 2C to survive the invasion of France, with the other nine tanks either being scuttled by their own crew to prevent capture, or breaking down.<nowiki></ref></nowiki>
<references /><nowiki>https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/france/fcm-2c.php</nowiki>

== Media ==

<nowiki>https://youtu.be/QmaE2bomv14</nowiki>

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8033-development-char-2bis-the-beast-of-champagne-en

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

[https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/france/fcm-2c.php#index11 https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/france/fcm-2c.php]

<nowiki>https://youtu.be/vdHmTGTPa20</nowiki>

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{France heavy tanks}}
{{France premium ground vehicles}}

Talk:Chi-Ha LG

2022-05-21T17:25:59Z

U107001428: /* Chi-Ha LG History Sources */ new section

== Chi-Ha LG History Sources ==

Do we have any sources on the historical claims made at the end of the Chi-Ha LG page? I see no sources referenced, and have not seen this information repeated anywhere else.

Ro-Go Exp.

2022-05-21T17:23:03Z

U107001428: Fixed Typos, added to ammo desc.

{{About
| about = Japanese tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the heavy tank
| link = Ro-Go
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{{Specs-Card
|code=jp_hiro_sha
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]]. The Ro-Go Experimental is a modification of the [[Ro-Go]] platform. It features a French model 120 mm Schneider-Canet 1898 cannon as its main armament.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

Similar to the Ro-Go it is based off of, the Ro-Go Experimental's armour is mostly comprised of large flat armour plates, though some are slightly angled. Front armour maxes out at 30 mm, with the angled sections such as the upper glacis being 25 mm thick. The shield surrounding the cannon, and by extension the crew, is 12 mm thick. Given the mostly flat shape of the Ro-Go Experimental's hull and relatively average armour thickness for its battle rating, a majority of incoming fire will be taken with full force, especially if it hits the flat plates at the front of the vehicle. Slightly angling the front of the Ro-Go Exp. may result in some shell ricochets, however. Much like its predecessor, the Ho-Ro, the Ro-Go Exp. can be easily penetrated by most other vehicles at its battle rating, but it does feature some odd angles that may result in lucky bounces. The Ro-Go Exp. does have a large crew count of 7, although they are rather lined up and a majority of them are in the open.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 25 - 30 mm || 25 mm ''Top'' 30 mm ''Bottom'' || 25 mm || 12 - 25 mm
|-
| Gun shield || 12 mm
!
!
!
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=412|rbMinHp=256}}

The Ro-Go Experimental shares the same drivetrain as the Ro-Go, featuring an inline 6-cylinder engine. It has mediocre mobility, noticeably more sluggish than its Chi-Ha based counterparts.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)}}

The 120 mm main armament of the Ro-Go Experimental will penetrate almost everything at its BR within a reasonable distance. The cannon, while considerably antiquated having been designed in 1897, fires a Semi-Armour-Piercing Capped Ballistic Capped round, which penetrates a maximum of 68 mm of armour at 10 m, even at 1,000 m the SAPCBC round can penetrate 53 mm of armour, certainly powerful enough to deal with most opponents at this BR. The round has a relatively low muzzle velocity and an average firing arc. The HE round has a significant amount of filler but does not have one shot potential like the HE round of the [[Ho-Ro]] or the [[S.I.G.33 (150 mm)]]. The SAPCBC round can also incur HE-type damage even if it does not penetrate due to it's high filler content. However, it may be wise to carry a few dedicated HE rounds.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)|120 mm Schneider-Canet 1898]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 16 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±12° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 8.8 || 12.2 || 14.8 || 16.4 || 17.4 || rowspan="2" | 13.00 || rowspan="2" | 11.50 || rowspan="2" | 10.60 || rowspan="2" | 10.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 5.9 || 7.0 || 8.5 || 9.4 || 10.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 63 || 62 || 58 || 53 || 49 || 45
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 580 || 20.4 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,970 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 580 || 20.46 || 1.2 || 19 || 1,430 || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''16''' || 9 ''(+7)'' || 1 ''(+15)'' || No
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
* If you pack 9 ''(+7)'' shells, it will keep the left side of the hull empty of ammo.

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Type 97 (7.7 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 97 (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Rear || 1,950 (20) || 499 || -8°/+20° || ±110°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Ro-Go Experimental plays like its predecessor on the tech tree, the Ho-Ro, but with some key differences. It has a faster reload time, but is noticeably less mobile and a larger target, a trait inherited from its basis on the Ro-Go chassis. Also unlike the Ho-Ro, the SAPCBC round has very good penetration and does not rely solely on HE filler to cause damage. It is completely open topped and the gun shield is only 12 mm thick, making the exposed crew extremely vulnerable to CAS and heavy machine gun fire. However, the Ro-Go Exp. does have some tricks up its sleeve - specifically the rear machine gunner. Like the Ro-Go, this crewman is largely useless in terms of offense, but will rarely be the first to be knocked out in a fight, essentially giving the player a somewhat guaranteed crew replacement. Play the Ro-Go Exp. like you would other Rank I and II Japanese Tank Destroyers, either freelance and find a good spot to get the jump on opponents, or stay back with other players and support from the rear. Like other Japanese SPG's, you are somewhat of a glass cannon. Remember that you can only spawn with 16 rounds maximum.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Fantastic main armament for the BR.
** Low penetration fall off even at extreme ranges.
** One shot potential against most matchups.
** Faster reload than the Ho-Ro.
* More crew members than other tank destroyers in the lower rank Japanese tree (Ho-Ro and Ho-Ni series).
** Rear machine gun position provides opportunities for a "free" crew replacement.

'''Cons:'''

* Overall the armour is average at best, poor at worst.
** The crew is mostly exposed and is at the mercy of .50 calibers, aircraft, artillery and if flanked LMG fire.
* Mobility is overall worse compared to the majority of Chi-Ha based tank destroyers, the Ro-Go Experimental is comparatively sluggish.
** Mediocre top speed of 25 km/h.
* 16 shell maximum ammo count.
* Somewhat slow shell velocity can be hard to aim.

== History ==


The '''Ro-Go Experimental''' (sometimes incorrectly referred to as the Hi-Ro (sha) or Ji-Ro) was a prototypical field modification to the Type 95 Heavy Tank.
[[File:Ro-Go Experimental Historical.jpg|thumb|Ro-Go Experimental at factory grounds]]

The Type 95 Ro-Go Heavy Tank was in itself a low production experiment, but its hull was the basis for a few other trials, namely for its use as an SPG. The result of using a remaining unused Type 95 hull, field modifying the tank by replacing the two turrets with a 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon mounted at the front of the chassis. Both a long and a short version of the cannon were tested. These cannons were originally of French origin and built under license by the Japanese.<ref>斯加式十二糎速射加農砲, [https://i.imgur.com/hH2ioDe.jpg Ref.C01007469500]</ref><ref>斯加式十二糎速射加農砲, [https://i.imgur.com/Eol46sS.jpg Ref.C01003984100]</ref>

A different configuration was brought to the drawing board by the original designer of the Type 95 Ro-Go, Tomio Hara. He designed what would be known as the Ji-Ro on the same hull but with more modification to the base hull, completely getting rid of all the 3 turrets, moving the engine and fully enclosing the casemate at the end of the vehicle.<ref>[https://i.redd.it/qrlwlvyyohl11.jpg Ji-Ro Blueprint]</ref>

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=jp_hiro_sha Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[Ro-Go]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/366138-type-95-hiro-sha/ <nowiki>[Forum]</nowiki> Original Suggestion]
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/9erwsf/jiro_experimental_tank_destroyer/ <nowiki>[Reddit]</nowiki> Ji-Ro Experimental Tank Destroyer]

=== References ===
<references />

{{Japan tank destroyers}}

Turan II

2022-04-02T05:17:55Z

U107001428: Added a strategy section.

{{Specs-Card
|code=it_41m_turan_2
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update "Winged Lions"]] as a reward for [[Battle Pass: Season VI, "Firepower"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Hull and Turret MG ports)
* Structural steel (Side Skirts)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 50 mm (18°) ''Upper plate'' 25 mm (18°) ''Driver port'' 13 mm (75°) ''Upper glacis'' 15+35 mm (30°) ''Lower plate'' 15+35 mm (50°) ''Lower glacis'' || 25 mm (10-16°) + 8 mm ''Top'' 25+8 mm ''Bottom'' || 25 mm ''Upper plate'' 25 mm (46°) ''Lower glacis'' || 13 mm (15°) ''Front glacis'' 13 mm ''Crew and engine compartments 10 mm ''Engine vent'' 13 mm (73°) ''Transmission compartment
|-
| Turret || 50 mm (10°) ''Turret front'' 25 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 25 (10°) + 8 (11°) mm || 25+8 mm || 25 mm ''Front'' 13 mm ''Rear''
|-
| Cupola || 25 mm (71°) || 25 mm (10°) || 25 mm (12°) || 25 mm (19°) ''Front'' 13 mm ''Rear''
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and tracks are both 15 mm thick.
* The hull sides and turret sides and rear are protected by an extra 8 mm plate to provide protection from HEAT and HE shells.
* The front right side of the turret has one set of tracks acting as add-on armour with a thickness of 15 mm.
* Angling the tank to roughly 37-38° increases the armour of the front plate to 63 mm, however due to the armour arrangement, this allows a section of the side armour to have 30 mm of protection, leaving it vulnerable to most shells from opponents at its battle rating.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=403|rbMinHp=230}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|41.M (75 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[41.M (75 mm)|75 mm 41.M]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 52 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 14.3 || 19.8 || 24.0 || 26.5 || 28.2 || rowspan="2" | 4.29 || rowspan="2" | 3.80 || rowspan="2" | 3.50 || rowspan="2" | 3.30
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 8.9 || 10.5 || 12.8 || 14.1 || 15.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| 42/36.M || APCBC || 44 || 43 || 37 || 31 || 26 || 22
|-
| 42/38.M || HE || 7 || 7 || 7 || 7 || 7 || 7
|-
| 42.M || HEAT || 90 || 90 || 90 || 90 || 90 || 90
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| 42/36.M || APCBC || 400 || 5.2 || 1.2 || 14 || 80 || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| 42/38.M || HE || 450 || 5.2 || 0 || 0.1 || 400 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| 42.M || HEAT || 450 || 4.8 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 875.5 || 62° || 69° || 73°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! 7th rack empty
! 8th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''52''' || 47 ''(+5)'' || 41 ''(+11)'' || 35 ''(+17)'' || 29 ''(+23)'' || 23 ''(+29)'' || 17 ''(+35)'' || 11 ''(+41)'' || 1 ''(+51)'' || No
|-
|}
'''Notes''':

* As they are modeled by sets of 2, shells disappear from the rack only after you've fired both shells in the set.
* Turret empty: 23 ''(+29)'' shells.

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|34/40M (8 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[34/40M (8 mm)|8 mm 34/40M]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 3,200 (100) || 900 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

The Turan II shares many strengths and weaknesses with other Axis medium tanks at it's BR, most similarly the Pz.35(t) and Pz.38(t) family of vehicles, which historically it is closely related to.

The Turan is a boxy vehicle, both the hull and turret are mostly made up of nearly vertical plates, frontal hull and turret armor is thickest at 50 millimeters. As previously noted, slight angling can increase the effective armor of the Turan. The mesh side skirts give added protection against HEAT rounds. However, the armor overall is average for the BR. Playing the Turan conservatively can maximize survivability as the armor can be defeated by many other vehicles at this BR. The crew of 5 helps survivability but they are somewhat close together, and the shells are placed all throughout the tank, including the turret, increasing the chances of getting ammo racked.

The Turan has deceptively good mobility for a tank of it's size and armament. It has a decent acceleration and top speed, and a great reverse speed. The hull and turret traverse are both average. Using the Turan's mobility to find good flanking locations pairs well with it's relatively quick reload and good gun depression. The 75 mm cannon has a lower velocity and three different shells. The HEAT shell is clearly the superior round with up to 90 mm of penetration at any range. The APHE can inflict more post-pen damage but at the cost of a drastic drop in penetration, less than half that of the HEAT round. The HE round doesn't have many practical uses, as the HEAT round often is sufficient to overpressure certain vehicles.

a decent acceleration and top speed, and a great reverse speed. Hull and turret traverse are average. Using the Turan's mobility to find good flanking spots pairs well with it's fast reload and good gun depression.

=== Pros and cons ===

''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

* Short reload time
* Fairly mobile for its size and weight
* Quick and responsive reverse of -12 km/h
* Can bounce shots with a bit of angling

'''Cons:'''

* Struggles in an uptier
* Large profile
* Cramped turret, a penetrating shot often takes out the whole crew
* Littered with ammunition
* Angling too much presents a flat target for the enemy to shoot at, due to the shape of the hull
* Slow turret traverse

== History ==

=== [[wt:en/news/7524-development-battle-pass-vehicles-41-m-turán-ii-en|Devblog]] ===
[[File:Turan II History.png|thumb|Turan II during tests]]
At the beginning of the 1940s, the Hungarian military decided to develop its own medium tank on the basis of the recently developed Czechoslovakian T-21 medium tank prototype. After one test unit successfully passed initial trials in Hungary, several changes were made to the design, including the fitting of a Hungarian 40 mm cannon as well as increased armor protection. The resulting T-22 design would then be officially accepted into Hungarian service as the 40.M Turán in November 1940.
[[File:Turan II History II.png|thumb|Turan II tanks before battle]]
An initial order of 230 Turán Is was issued in September 1940, but production ended up being delayed by several months due to incomplete technical documentation. Production started only in March 1941 after Škoda supplied the complete technical documents, with the first 40.M Turán I rolling off the assembly line in July 1941. However, before even the first vehicle was constructed, the Hungarian General Staff realized the need for upgrading the vehicle and thus formulated the specification to upgun the Turán with a 75mm gun. However, as no such gun could be developed by Hungary at the time, a WW1 field gun was selected to be modified for tank use.

This undertaking was successful, though it required the Turán’s turret to be enlarged slightly. The first prototype of this modification, which became known as the 41.M Turán II, was built in January 1942 and entered service in May. In total, around 195 Turán IIs were constructed until 1944. Today, only a single example of the Turán II survives and is on display in the Kubinka Tank Museum in the vicinity of Moscow.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=it_41m_turan_2 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|WlS7yspnciI|'''Battle Pass: Firepower''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 00:38 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7524-development-battle-pass-vehicles-41-m-tur%C3%A1n-ii-en|[Devblog] Battle Pass vehicles: 41.M Turán II]]

{{Italy medium tanks}}
{{Italy premium ground vehicles}}

Chi-To (Family)

2021-05-04T00:08:35Z

U107001428: /* Description */ Major overhaul of a typo ridden and short page.

{{DISPLAYTITLE:Type 4 Chi-To (Family)}}
== Description ==
The '''Type 4 ''Chi-To''''' ({{Annotation|四式中戦車チト|Yon-shiki Chū-sensha Chi-To}}) was a Japanese response to the appearance of the [[M4 Sherman (Family)|M4 Sherman]]. Despite Japanese armor seeing great success earlier in World War 2 (Japanese armor arguably led the army to victory in China, Malaya and Corregidor), the [[Chi-Ha Kai]] was grossly outdated by the time of the American island hopping campaign - it could neither resist the Sherman's main armament nor could it penetrate it's frontal armor. The Chi-To was the next logical design step after the Chi-Nu, mounting a capable 75 mm gun on a better armored hull. The Chi-To came only to a concluding development just before the war ended after many delays. Only 2 were known to be completed.

== Vehicles ==
===Rank II===

* [[Chi-To]]
* [[Chi-To Late]] - (Projected Production Model)


[[Category:Family pages]]

Ro-Go Exp.

2021-04-18T19:49:37Z

U107001428: Updated naming issue for JiRo

{{Specs-Card
|code=jp_hiro_sha
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]]. The Ji-Ro is a modification of the [[Ro-Go]] platform. It features a French model 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon as its main armament.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

Similar to the Ro-Go it is based off of, the Ji-Ro's armor is mostly comprised of large flat armor plates, though some are slightly angled. Front armor maxes out at 30 mm, with the angled sections such as the upper glacis being 25 mm thick. The shield surrounding the cannon, and by extension the crew, is 12 mm thick. Given the mostly flat shape of the Ji-Ro's hull and relatively average armor thickness for its battle rating, a majority of incoming fire will be taken with full force, especially if it hits the flat plates at the front of the vehicle. Slightly angling the front of the Ji-Ro may result in some shell ricochets, however. Much like it's predecessor, the Ho-Ro, the Ji-Ro can be easily penetrated by most other vehicles at its Battle Rating, but it does feature some odd angles that may result in lucky bounces. The Ji-Ro does have a large crew count of 7, although they are rather lined up and a majority of them are in the open.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 25 - 30 mm || 25 mm ''Top'' 30 mm ''Bottom'' || 25 mm || 12 - 25 mm
|-
| Gun shield || 12 mm ''Gun shield''
!
!
!
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=412|rbMinHp=256}}

The Ji-Ro shares the same drivetrain as the Ro-Go, featuring an inline 6-cylinder engine. The Ji-Ro has mediocre mobility, noticeably more sluggish than its Chi-Ha based counterparts.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)}}

The 120 mm main armament of the Ji-Ro will penetrate almost everything at it's BR within a reasonable distance. The cannon, while considerably antiquated having been designed in 1897, fires a Semi-Armor-Piercing-Capped Ballistic Capped round, which penetrates a maximum of 68 mm of armor at 10 m, even at 1,000 m the SAPCBC round can penetrate 53 mm of armor, certainly powerful enough to deal with most opponents at this BR. The round has a relatively low muzzle velocity and an average firing arc. The HE round has a significant amount of filler but does not have one shot potential like the HE round of the [[Ho-Ro]] or the [[S.I.G.33 (150 mm)]].

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)|120 mm Schneider-Canet 1898]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 16 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±12° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 8.8 || 12.2 || 14.8 || 16.4 || 17.4 || rowspan="2" | 13.00 || rowspan="2" | 11.50 || rowspan="2" | 10.60 || rowspan="2" | 10.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 5.9 || 7.0 || 8.5 || 9.4 || 10.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 63 || 62 || 58 || 53 || 49 || 45
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 580 || 20.4 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,970 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 580 || 20.46 || 1.2 || 19 || 1,430 || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''16''' || 9 ''(+8)'' || 1 ''(+15)'' || No
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Type 97 (7.7 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 97 (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Rear || 1,950 (20) || 498 || -8°/+20° || ±110°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Ji-Ro plays like its predecessor on the tech tree, the Ho-Ro, but with some key differences. It has a faster reload time, but is noticeably less mobile and a larger target, a trait inherited from its basis on the Ro-Go chassis. Also unlike the Ho-Ro, the SAPCBC round has very good penetration and does not rely solely on HE filler to cause damage. It is completely open topped and the gun shield is only 12 mm thick, making the exposed crew extremely vulnerable to CAS and heavy machine gun fire. However, the Ji-Ro does have some tricks up it's sleeve - specifically the rear machine gunner. Like the Ro-Go, this crewman is largely useless in terms of offense, but will rarely be the first to be knocked out in a fight, essentially giving the player a somewhat guaranteed crew replacement. Play the Ji-Ro like you would other Rank I and II Japanese Tank Destroyers, either freelance and find a good spot to get the jump on opponents, or stay back with other players and support from the rear. Like other Japanese SPG's, you are somewhat of a glass cannon. Remember that you can only spawn with 16 rounds maximum.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Fantastic main armament for the BR.
** Low penetration fall off even at extreme ranges.
** One shot potential against most matchups.
** Faster reload than the Ho-Ro.
* More crew members than other tank destroyers in the lower rank Japanese tree (Ho-Ro and Ho-Ni series).
** Rear machine gun position provides opportunities for a "free" crew replacement.

'''Cons:'''

* Overall the armor is average at best, poor at worst.
** The crew is mostly exposed and is at the mercy of .50 calibers, aircraft, artillery and if flanked LMG fire.
* Mobility is overall worse compared to the majority of Chi-Ha based tank destroyers, the Ji-Ro is comparatively sluggish.
** Mediocre top speed of 25 km/h.
* 16 shell maximum ammo count.
* Somewhat slow shell velocity can be hard to aim.

== History ==

{{Notice|Ji-Ro & Experimental 12 cm Self Propelled Gun are unrelated <ref>斯加式十二糎速射加農砲, [https://i.imgur.com/hH2ioDe.jpg Ref.C01007469500]</ref> <ref>斯加式十二糎速射加農砲, [https://i.imgur.com/Eol46sS.jpg Ref.C01003984100]</ref>;
- The '''''Ji-Ro''''' was a casemate Type 95 Ro-Go design <ref>[https://i.redd.it/qrlwlvyyohl11.jpg Ji-Ro Blueprint]</ref>

- The '''''Experimental''''' was a Type 95 Ro-Go with a 12cm Schneider field prototype <ref>[http://i.imgur.com/0O0nRn0.jpg Experimental Image]</ref>|!}}


The Ji-Ro (sometimes referred to as the Ji-Ro Sha, or incorrectly, the Hi-Ro or Hiro-Sha), was a prototypical modification to the Type 95 Heavy Tank. The Type 95 was in itself a low production experiment, but its hull was the basis for a few other trials, namely for its use as an SPG. Allegedly, a few different configurations were brought to the drawing board. One configuration, known only on paper as the Ji-Ro, was a fully enclosed SPG with the cannon located in the rear. Another design was the result of using the Type 95 hull as an open topped SPG, replacing the two turrets with a 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon mounted at the front of the chassis. This design, unlike the enclosed SPG, was definitely built and can be seen in photographs. Both a long and a short version of the cannon were tested. These cannons were originally of French origin and built under license by the Japanese. The open topped project present in War Thunder was actually dubbed the "Experimental 12 cm Self Propelled Gun", while the other design was technically named the Ji-Ro.

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/366138-type-95-hiro-sha/ <nowiki>[Forum]</nowiki> Original Suggestion]
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/9erwsf/jiro_experimental_tank_destroyer/ <nowiki>[Reddit]</nowiki> Ji-Ro Experimental Tank Destroyer]

{{Japan tank destroyers}}

Ro-Go Exp.

2021-03-11T19:33:07Z

U107001428:

{{Specs-Card
|code=jp_hiro_sha
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]]. The Ji-Ro is a modification of the [[Ro-Go|Type 95 Heavy Tank (Ro-Go)]] platform. It features a unique French model 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon as its main armament.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

Similar to the Ro-Go it is based off of, the Ji-Ro's armor is mostly comprised of large flat armor plates, though some are slightly angled. Front armor maxes out at 30 mm, with the angled sections such as the upper glacis being 25 mm thick. The shield surrounding the cannon, and by extension the crew, is 12 mm thick. Given the mostly flat shape of the Ji-Ro's hull and relatively average armor thickness for its battle rating, a majority of incoming fire will be taken with full force, especially if it hits the flat plates at the front of the vehicle. Slightly angling the front of the Ji-Ro may result in some shell ricochets, however. Much like it's predecessor, the Ho-Ro, the Ji-Ro can be easily penetrated by most other vehicles at its Battle Rating, but it does feature some odd angles that may result in lucky bounces. The Ji-Ro does have a large crew count of 7, although they are rather lined up and a majority of them are in the open.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 25 - 30 mm || 25 mm ''Top'' 30 mm ''Bottom'' || 25 mm || 12 - 25 mm
|-
| Turret || 12 mm ''Turret front'' 0 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 0 mm || 0 mm || 0 mm
|-
| Cupola || 0 mm || 0 mm || 0 mm || 0 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

'''The Ji-Ro shares the same drivetrain as the Ro-Go, featuring an inline 6 engine. The Ji-Ro has mediocre mobility, it is noticeably more sluggish than its Chi-Ha based counterparts.'''

{{tankMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)}}
The 120 mm main armament of the Ji-Ro will penetrate almost everything at it's BR within a reasonable distance. The cannon, while considerably antiquated having been designed in 1897, fires a Semi-Armor-Piercing-Capped Ballistic Capped round, which penetrates a maximum of 68 mm of armor at 10 m, even at 1000 m the SAPCBC round can penetrate 53 mm of armor, certainly powerful enough to deal with most opponents at this BR. The round has a relatively low muzzle velocity and an average firing arc. The HE round has a significant amount of filler but does not have one shot potential like the HE round of the [[Ho-Ro]] or the [[S.I.G.33 (150 mm)]].
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)|120 mm Schneider-Canet 1898]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 16 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±12° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 63 || 62 || 58 || 53 || 49 || 45
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 580 || 20.40 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,970 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 580 || 20.46 || 1.2 || 19 || 1,430 || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''16''' || 9 ''(+8)'' || 1 ''(+15)'' || No
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Type 97 (7.7 mm)}}
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 97 (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Rear
| 1,950 (20) || 498 || -8°/+20° || ±110°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Ji-Ro plays like its predecessor on the tech tree, the Ho-Ro, but with some key differences. It has a faster reload time, but is noticeably less mobile and a larger target, a trait inherited from its basis on the Ro-Go chassis. Also unlike the Ho-Ro, the SAPCBC round has very good penetration and does not rely solely on HE filler to cause damage. It is completely open topped and the gun shield is only 12 mm thick, making the exposed crew extremely vulnerable to CAS and heavy machine gun fire. However, the Ji-Ro does have some tricks up it's sleeve - specifically the rear machine gunner. Like the Ro-Go, this crewman is largely useless in terms of offense, but will rarely be the first to be knocked out in a fight, essentially giving the player a somewhat guaranteed crew replacement. Play the Ji-Ro like you would other Rank I and II Japanese Tank Destroyers, either freelance and find a good spot to get the jump on opponents, or stay back with other players and support from the rear. Like other Japanese SPG's, you are somewhat of a glass cannon. Remember that you can only spawn with 16 rounds maximum.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Fantastic main armament for the BR.
** Low penetration fall off even at extreme ranges.
** One shot potential against most matchups.
** Faster reload than the Ho-Ro.
* More crew members than other tank destroyers in the lower rank Japanese tree (Ho-Ro and Ho-Ni series).
** Rear machine gun position provides opportunities for a "free" crew replacement.

'''Cons:'''

* Overall the armor is average at best, poor at worst.
** The crew is mostly exposed and is at the mercy of .50 calibers, aircraft, artillery and if flanked LMG fire.
* Mobility is overall worse compared to the majority of Chi-Ha based tank destroyers, the Ji-Ro is comparatively sluggish.
** Mediocre top speed of 25 km/h.
* 16 shell maximum ammo count.
* Somewhat slow shell velocity can be hard to aim.

== History ==

{{Notice|Ji-Ro & Experimental 12 cm Self Propelled Gun are unrelated <ref>斯加式十二糎速射加農砲, [https://i.imgur.com/hH2ioDe.jpg Ref.C01007469500]</ref> <ref>斯加式十二糎速射加農砲, [https://i.imgur.com/Eol46sS.jpg Ref.C01003984100]</ref>;
- The '''''Ji-Ro''''' was a casemate Type 95 Ro-Go design <ref>[https://i.redd.it/qrlwlvyyohl11.jpg Ji-Ro Blueprint]</ref>

- The '''''Experimental''''' was a Type 95 Ro-Go with a 12cm Schneider field prototype <ref>[http://i.imgur.com/0O0nRn0.jpg Experimental Image]</ref>|!}}


The Ji-Ro (sometimes referred to as the Ji-Ro Sha, or incorrectly, the Hi-Ro or Hiro-Sha), was a prototypical modification to the Type 95 Heavy Tank. The Type 95 was in itself a low production experiment, but its hull was the basis for a few other trials, namely for its use as an SPG. Allegedly a few different configurations were brought to the drawing board. The Ji-Ro was the result of using the Type 95 hull as an SPG, replacing the two turrets with a 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon. Both a long and a short version of the cannon were tested. These cannons were originally of French origin and built under license by the Japanese. The project was also dubbed the "Experimental 12 cm Self Propelled Gun".

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/366138-type-95-hiro-sha/ <nowiki>[Forum]</nowiki> Original Suggestion]
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/9erwsf/jiro_experimental_tank_destroyer/ <nowiki>[Reddit]</nowiki> Ji-Ro Experimental Tank Destroyer]

{{Japan tank destroyers}}

Ro-Go Exp.

2021-03-11T01:18:45Z

U107001428: /* Main armament */

{{Specs-Card
|code=jp_hiro_sha
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]]. The Ji-Ro is a modification of the [[Ro-Go|Type 95 Heavy Tank (Ro-Go)]] platform. It features a French model 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon as its main armament.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

Similar to the Ro-Go it is based off of, the Ji-Ro's armor is mostly comprised of large flat armor plates, though some are slightly angled. Front armor maxes out at 30 mm, with the angled sections such as the upper glacis being 25 mm thick. The shield surrounding the cannon, and by extension the crew, is 12 mm thick. Given the mostly flat shape of the Ji-Ro's hull and relatively average armor thickness for its battle rating, a majority of incoming fire will be taken with full force, especially if it hits the flat plates at the front of the vehicle. Slightly angling the front of the Ji-Ro may result in some shell ricochets, however. Much like it's predecessor, the Ho-Ro, the Ji-Ro can be easily penetrated by most other vehicles at its Battle Rating, but it does feature some odd angles that may result in lucky bounces.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 30 mm || ___ mm ''Top'' ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
|-
| Turret || 12 mm ''Turret front'' ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
|-
| Cupola || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

'''The Ji-Ro shares the same drivetrain as the Ro-Go.'''

{{tankMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)}}
The 120 mm main armament of the Ji-Ro will penetrate almost everything at it's BR within a reasonable distance. The cannon, while considerably antiquated having been designed in 1897, fires a Semi-Armor-Piercing-Capped Ballistic Capped round, which penetrates a maximum of 68 mm of armor at 10 m. The round has a relatively low muzzle velocity and an average firing arc. The HE round has a significant amount of filler but does not have one shot potential like the HE round of the [[Ho-Ro]] or the [[S.I.G.33 (150 mm)]].
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)|120 mm Schneider-Canet 1898]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 16 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±12° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 63 || 62 || 58 || 53 || 49 || 45
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 580 || _.__ || __ || _._ || ___ || __° || __° || __°
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 580 || _.__ || __ || _._ || ___ || __° || __° || __°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''16''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Type 97 (7.7 mm)}}
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 97 (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Ji-Ro plays like its predecessor on the tech tree, the Ho-Ro, but with some key differences. It has a faster reload time, but is noticeably less mobile and a larger target, a trait inherited from its basis on the Ro-Go chassis. Also unlike the Ho-Ro, the SAPCBC round has very good penetration and does not rely solely on HE filler to cause damage. It is completely open topped and the gun shield is only 12 mm thick, making the exposed crew extremely vulnerable to CAS and heavy machine gun fire. However, the Ji-Ro does have some tricks up it's sleeve - specifically the rear machine gunner. Like the Ro-Go, this crewman is largely useless in terms of offense, but will rarely be the first to be knocked out in a fight, essentially giving the player a somewhat guaranteed crew replacement. Play the Ji-Ro like you would other Rank I and II Japanese Tank Destroyers, either freelance and find a good spot to get the jump on opponents, or stay back with other players and support from the rear. Like other Japanese SPG's, you are somewhat of a glass cannon. Remember that you can only spawn with 20 rounds maximum.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Fantastic main armament for the BR.
* Low penetration fall off even at extreme ranges.
* One shot potential against most matchups.
* Faster reload than the Ho-Ro.
* More crew members than other tank destroyers in the lower rank Japanese tree (Ho-Ro and Ho-Ni series).
* Rear machine gun position provides opportunities for a "free" crew replacement.

*

'''Cons:'''

* Overall the armor is average at best, poor at worst.
* The crew is mostly exposed and is at the mercy of .50 calibers, aircraft, artillery and if flanked LMG fire.
* Mobility is overall worse compared to the majority of Chi-Ha based tank destroyers, the Ji-Ro is comparatively sluggish.
* 20 shell maximum ammo count.
* Mediocre top speed of 25 km/h.
* Somewhat slow shell velocity can be hard to aim.

*

== History ==

The Ji-Ro (sometimes referred to as the Ji-Ro Sha, or incorrectly, the Hi-Ro or Hiro-Sha), was a prototypical modification to the Type 95 Heavy Tank. The Type 95 was in itself a low production experiment, but its hull was the basis for a few other trials, namely for its use as an SPG. Allegedly a few different configurations were brought to the drawing board. The Ji-Ro was the result of using the Type 95 hull as an SPG, replacing the two turrets with a 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon. Both a long and a short version of the cannon were tested. These cannons were originally of French origin and built under license by the Japanese. The project was also dubbed the "Experimental 12 cm Self Propelled Gun".

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Japan tank destroyers}}

Ro-Go Exp.

2021-03-11T01:17:57Z

U107001428: Armament change

{{Specs-Card
|code=jp_hiro_sha
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]]. The Ji-Ro is a modification of the [[Ro-Go|Type 95 Heavy Tank (Ro-Go)]] platform. It features a French model 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon as its main armament.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

Similar to the Ro-Go it is based off of, the Ji-Ro's armor is mostly comprised of large flat armor plates, though some are slightly angled. Front armor maxes out at 30 mm, with the angled sections such as the upper glacis being 25 mm thick. The shield surrounding the cannon, and by extension the crew, is 12 mm thick. Given the mostly flat shape of the Ji-Ro's hull and relatively average armor thickness for its battle rating, a majority of incoming fire will be taken with full force, especially if it hits the flat plates at the front of the vehicle. Slightly angling the front of the Ji-Ro may result in some shell ricochets, however. Much like it's predecessor, the Ho-Ro, the Ji-Ro can be easily penetrated by most other vehicles at its Battle Rating, but it does feature some odd angles that may result in lucky bounces.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 30 mm || ___ mm ''Top'' ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
|-
| Turret || 12 mm ''Turret front'' ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
|-
| Cupola || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

'''The Ji-Ro shares the same drivetrain as the Ro-Go.'''

{{tankMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)}}
The 120 mm main armament of the Ji-Ro will penetrate almost everything at it's BR within a reasonable distance. The cannon, while designed in 1898, fires a Semi-Armor-Piercing-Capped Ballistic Capped round, which penetrates a maximum of 68 mm of armor at 10 m. The round has a relatively low muzzle velocity and an average firing arc. The HE round has a significant amount of filler but does not have one shot potential like the HE round of the [[Ho-Ro]] or the [[S.I.G.33 (150 mm)]].
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)|120 mm Schneider-Canet 1898]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 16 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±12° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 63 || 62 || 58 || 53 || 49 || 45
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 580 || _.__ || __ || _._ || ___ || __° || __° || __°
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 580 || _.__ || __ || _._ || ___ || __° || __° || __°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''16''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Type 97 (7.7 mm)}}
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 97 (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Ji-Ro plays like its predecessor on the tech tree, the Ho-Ro, but with some key differences. It has a faster reload time, but is noticeably less mobile and a larger target, a trait inherited from its basis on the Ro-Go chassis. Also unlike the Ho-Ro, the SAPCBC round has very good penetration and does not rely solely on HE filler to cause damage. It is completely open topped and the gun shield is only 12 mm thick, making the exposed crew extremely vulnerable to CAS and heavy machine gun fire. However, the Ji-Ro does have some tricks up it's sleeve - specifically the rear machine gunner. Like the Ro-Go, this crewman is largely useless in terms of offense, but will rarely be the first to be knocked out in a fight, essentially giving the player a somewhat guaranteed crew replacement. Play the Ji-Ro like you would other Rank I and II Japanese Tank Destroyers, either freelance and find a good spot to get the jump on opponents, or stay back with other players and support from the rear. Like other Japanese SPG's, you are somewhat of a glass cannon. Remember that you can only spawn with 20 rounds maximum.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Fantastic main armament for the BR.
* Low penetration fall off even at extreme ranges.
* One shot potential against most matchups.
* Faster reload than the Ho-Ro.
* More crew members than other tank destroyers in the lower rank Japanese tree (Ho-Ro and Ho-Ni series).
* Rear machine gun position provides opportunities for a "free" crew replacement.

*

'''Cons:'''

* Overall the armor is average at best, poor at worst.
* The crew is mostly exposed and is at the mercy of .50 calibers, aircraft, artillery and if flanked LMG fire.
* Mobility is overall worse compared to the majority of Chi-Ha based tank destroyers, the Ji-Ro is comparatively sluggish.
* 20 shell maximum ammo count.
* Mediocre top speed of 25 km/h.
* Somewhat slow shell velocity can be hard to aim.

*

== History ==

The Ji-Ro (sometimes referred to as the Ji-Ro Sha, or incorrectly, the Hi-Ro or Hiro-Sha), was a prototypical modification to the Type 95 Heavy Tank. The Type 95 was in itself a low production experiment, but its hull was the basis for a few other trials, namely for its use as an SPG. Allegedly a few different configurations were brought to the drawing board. The Ji-Ro was the result of using the Type 95 hull as an SPG, replacing the two turrets with a 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon. Both a long and a short version of the cannon were tested. These cannons were originally of French origin and built under license by the Japanese. The project was also dubbed the "Experimental 12 cm Self Propelled Gun".

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Japan tank destroyers}}

Ro-Go Exp.

2021-03-11T01:06:01Z

U107001428: /* Pros and cons */

{{Specs-Card
|code=jp_hiro_sha
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]]. The Ji-Ro is a modification of the [[Ro-Go|Type 95 Heavy Tank (Ro-Go)]] platform. It features a French model 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon as its main armament.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

Similar to the Ro-Go it is based off of, the Ji-Ro's armor is mostly comprised of large flat armor plates, though some are slightly angled. Front armor maxes out at 30 mm, with the angled sections such as the upper glacis being 25 mm thick. The shield surrounding the cannon, and by extension the crew, is 12 mm thick. Given the mostly flat shape of the Ji-Ro's hull and relatively average armor thickness for its battle rating, a majority of incoming fire will be taken with full force, especially if it hits the flat plates at the front of the vehicle. Slightly angling the front of the Ji-Ro may result in some shell ricochets, however. Much like it's predecessor, the Ho-Ro, the Ji-Ro can be easily penetrated by most other vehicles at its Battle Rating, but it does feature some odd angles that may result in lucky bounces.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 30 mm || ___ mm ''Top'' ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
|-
| Turret || 12 mm ''Turret front'' ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
|-
| Cupola || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

'''The Ji-Ro shares the same drivetrain as the Ro-Go.'''

{{tankMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)}}
The 120 mm main armament of the Ji-Ro will penetrate almost everything at it's BR within a reasonable distance. The cannon, while designed in 1898, fires a Semi-Armor-Piercing Ballistic Capped round, which penetrates a maximum of 68 mm of armor at 10 m. The round has a relatively low muzzle velocity and an average firing arc. The HE round has a significant amount of filler but does not have one shot potential like the HE round of the [[Ho-Ro]] or the [[S.I.G.33 (150 mm)]].
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)|120 mm Schneider-Canet 1898]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 16 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±12° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 63 || 62 || 58 || 53 || 49 || 45
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 580 || _.__ || __ || _._ || ___ || __° || __° || __°
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 580 || _.__ || __ || _._ || ___ || __° || __° || __°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''16''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|Type 97 (7.7 mm)}}
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 97 (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Ji-Ro plays like its predecessor on the tech tree, the Ho-Ro, but with some key differences. It has a faster reload time, but is noticeably less mobile and a larger target, a trait inherited from its basis on the Ro-Go chassis. Also unlike the Ho-Ro, the SAPCBC round has very good penetration and does not rely solely on HE filler to cause damage. It is completely open topped and the gun shield is only 12 mm thick, making the exposed crew extremely vulnerable to CAS and heavy machine gun fire. However, the Ji-Ro does have some tricks up it's sleeve - specifically the rear machine gunner. Like the Ro-Go, this crewman is largely useless in terms of offense, but will rarely be the first to be knocked out in a fight, essentially giving the player a somewhat guaranteed crew replacement. Play the Ji-Ro like you would other Rank I and II Japanese Tank Destroyers, either freelance and find a good spot to get the jump on opponents, or stay back with other players and support from the rear. Like other Japanese SPG's, you are somewhat of a glass cannon. Remember that you can only spawn with 20 rounds maximum.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Fantastic main armament for the BR.
* Low penetration fall off even at extreme ranges.
* One shot potential against most matchups.
* Faster reload than the Ho-Ro.
* More crew members than other tank destroyers in the lower rank Japanese tree (Ho-Ro and Ho-Ni series).
* Rear machine gun position provides opportunities for a "free" crew replacement.

*

'''Cons:'''

* Overall the armor is average at best, poor at worst.
* The crew is mostly exposed and is at the mercy of .50 calibers, aircraft, artillery and if flanked LMG fire.
* Mobility is overall worse compared to the majority of Chi-Ha based tank destroyers, the Ji-Ro is comparatively sluggish.
* 20 shell maximum ammo count.
* Mediocre top speed of 25 km/h.
* Somewhat slow shell velocity can be hard to aim.

*

== History ==

The Ji-Ro (sometimes referred to as the Ji-Ro Sha, or incorrectly, the Hi-Ro or Hiro-Sha), was a prototypical modification to the Type 95 Heavy Tank. The Type 95 was in itself a low production experiment, but its hull was the basis for a few other trials, namely for its use as an SPG. Allegedly a few different configurations were brought to the drawing board. The Ji-Ro was the result of using the Type 95 hull as an SPG, replacing the two turrets with a 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon. Both a long and a short version of the cannon were tested. These cannons were originally of French origin and built under license by the Japanese. The project was also dubbed the "Experimental 12 cm Self Propelled Gun".

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Japan tank destroyers}}

Ro-Go Exp.

2021-03-11T00:48:40Z

U107001428: Began to write article, added much to the description of the vehicle, will add more soon.

{{Specs-Card
|code=jp_hiro_sha
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]]. The Ji-Ro is a modification of the [[Ro-Go|Type 95 Heavy Tank (Ro-Go)]] platform. It features a French model 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon as its main armament.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

Similar to the Ro-Go it is based off of, the Ji-Ro's armor is mostly comprised of large flat armor plates, though some are slightly angled. Front armor maxes out at 30 mm, with the angled sections such as the upper glacis being 25 mm thick. The shield surrounding the cannon, and by extension the crew, is 12 mm thick. Given the mostly flat shape of the Ji-Ro's hull and relatively average armor thickness for its battle rating, a majority of incoming fire will be taken with full force, especially if it hits the flat plates at the front of the vehicle. Slightly angling the front of the Ji-Ro may result in some shell ricochets, however. Much like it's predecessor, the Ho-Ro, the Ji-Ro can be easily penetrated by most other vehicles at its Battle Rating, but it does feature some odd angles that may result in lucky bounces.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 30 mm || ___ mm ''Top'' ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
|-
| Turret || 12 mm ''Turret front'' ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
|-
| Cupola || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

'''The Ji-Ro shares the same drivetrain as the Ro-Go.'''

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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
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{{main|Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)}}
The 120 mm main armament of the Ji-Ro will penetrate almost everything at it's BR within a reasonable distance. The cannon, while designed in 1898, fires a Semi-Armor-Piercing Ballistic Capped round, which penetrates a maximum of 68 mm of armor at 10 m. The round has a relatively low muzzle velocity and an average firing arc. The HE round has a significant amount of filler but does not have one shot potential like the HE round of the [[S.I.G.33 (150 mm)]].
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Schneider-Canet 1898 (120 mm)|120 mm Schneider-Canet 1898]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 16 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±12° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || 68 || __ || __ || __ || __ || __
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Schneider-Canet HE || HE || ___ || _.__ || __ || _._ || ___ || __° || __° || __°
|-
| Schneider-Canet SAP || SAPCBC || ___ || _.__ || __ || _._ || ___ || __° || __° || __°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''16''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
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{{main|Type 97 (7.7 mm)}}
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 97 (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Ji-Ro plays like its predecessor on the tech tree, the Ho-Ro, but with some key differences. It has a faster reload time, but is noticeably less mobile and a larger target, a trait inherited from its basis on the Ro-Go chassis. It is completely open topped and the gun shield is only 12 mm thick, making the exposed crew extremely vulnerable to CAS and heavy machine gun fire. However, the Ji-Ro does have some tricks up it's sleeve - specifically the rear machine gunner. Like the Ro-Go, this crewman is largely useless in terms of offense, but will rarely be the first to be knocked out in a fight, essentially giving the player a somewhat guaranteed crew replacement. Play the Ji-Ro like you would other Rank I and II Japanese Tank Destroyers, either freelance and find a good spot to get the jump on opponents, or stay back with other players and support from the rear. Like other Japanese SPG's, you are somewhat of a glass cannon. Remember that you can only spawn with 20 rounds maximum.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Fantastic main armament for the BR.
* One shot potential against most matchups.
* Faster reload than the Ho-Ro.
* More crew members than other tank destroyers in the lower rank Japanese tree (Ho-Ro and Ho-Ni series).
* Rear machine gun position provides opportunities for a "free" crew replacement.

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'''Cons:'''

* Overall the armor is average at best, poor at worst.
* The crew is mostly exposed and is at the mercy of .50 calibers and aircraft.
* Mobility is overall worse compared to the majority of Chi-Ha based tank destroyers, the Ji-Ro is comparatively sluggish.
* 20 shell maximum ammo count.

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== History ==

The Ji-Ro (sometimes referred to as the Ji-Ro Sha, or incorrectly, the Hi-Ro or Hiro-Sha), was a prototypical modification to the Type 95 Heavy Tank. The Type 95 was in itself a low production experiment, but its hull was the basis for a few other trials, namely for its use as an SPG. Allegedly a few different configurations were brought to the drawing board. The Ji-Ro was the result of using the Type 95 hull as an SPG, replacing the two turrets with a 120 mm Schneider-Canet cannon. Both a long and a short version of the cannon were tested. These cannons were originally of French origin and built under license by the Japanese. The project was also dubbed the "Experimental 12 cm Self Propelled Gun".

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