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A-4E Early (M) (Israel)

2022-01-01T04:52:05Z

U101799908: /* Details */ pros/cons and some engine mods ps.Happy New Year to whoever reading this!

{{Specs-Card
|code=a_4e_early_iaf
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 1000
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 592 || 560 || 410 || ~8 || ~3
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 450 || < 700 || < 490 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Pratt & Whitney J52 P-6A || 1
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| 900kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | Booster (_____ - ___)
! colspan="3" | Aircraft mass
|-
! rowspan="2" | Number || rowspan="2" | Booster weight (each) || rowspan="2" | Fuel weight (each) || rowspan="2" | Burn time || rowspan="2" | Can be shutdown|| rowspan="2" | Jettisoned after use
! colspan="3" | Mass with full booster fuel (no weapons load)
|-
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| 2 || ___ kg || 40 kg || ___ s || ___ || ___
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | Condition
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Maximum booster thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each booster, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Combined engine & booster thrust @ 0 m|The total thrust produced by all engines and boosters. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="3" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP with booster)
|-
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, belly-mounted (100 rpg = 200 total)
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons (100 rpg = 200 total) + 60 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|100/50 kg G.P. (100 kg)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|360/50 kg G.P. (360 kg)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)}}
{{main|AGM-62A Walleye I (505 kg)|GBU-8 (2,000 lb)|AIM-9B Sidewinder}}
{{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP|Mk 11 mod 5 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 20 x 100 kg 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 18 x 100 kg 100/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (1,800 kg total)
* 14 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,500 kg total)
* 12 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (3,000 kg total)
* 3 x 360 kg 360/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,080 kg total)
* 3 x 360 kg 360/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (1,080 kg total)
* 5 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,500 kg total)
* 3 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (1,500 kg total)
* 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb (2,000 lb total)
* 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (2,000 lb total)
* 36 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 6 x 100 kg 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (600 kg total)
* 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,500 kg total)
* 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 1 x 360 kg 360/50 kg G.P. bomb (360 kg total)
* 28 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
* 171 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 6 x 100 kg 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (600 kg total)
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,500 kg total)
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 1 x 360 kg 360/50 kg G.P. bomb (360 kg total)
* 133 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs (1,010 kg total)
* 2 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs + 6 x 100 kg 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,610 kg total)
* 2 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,510 kg total)
* 2 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs + 1 x 360 kg 360/50 kg G.P. bomb (1,370 kg total)
* 2 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs + 3 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,510 kg total)
* 2 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (1,010 kg total)
* 2 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 6 x 100 kg 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,610 kg total)
* 2 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,510 kg total)
* 2 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 360 kg 360/50 kg G.P. bomb (1,370 kg total)
* 2 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 3 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,510 kg total)
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
* 3 x 20 mm Mk 11 mod 5 cannons (750 rpg = 2,250 total)
* 1 x 20 mm Mk 11 mod 5 cannon (750 rpg) + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 2,000 lb GBU-8 bomb (2,000 lb total)
* 1 x 2,000 lb GBU-8 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (2,000 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Large variety of ground striking ornaments
* TV guided ground bombs such as GBU and Walleye
* Good turn rate at low speeds
* Able to carry countermeasures to help with survivability

*

'''Cons:'''

* Wings can rip off at high speed or high negative G decent
* Sluggish acceleration and underpowered engine for the aircraft
* Bleeds air speed quickly in high G turn
* Can stall out quickly in Sim Battles without SAS (Stability Augmentation System)

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/538311-douglas-a-4e/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-4E_Skyhawk_SAC_-_1_July_1967.pdf Standard Aircraft Characteristics of the A-4E]

{{Israel jet aircraft}}

A-4H (Israel)

2022-01-01T04:28:14Z

U101799908: /* Flight performance */ Some engine mods, and pros/cons

{{Specs-Card
|code=a_4h
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | 12500{{Specs|ceiling}} || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 1000
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 592 || 562 || 410 || ~8 || ~3
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Pratt & Whitney J52 P-8A || 1
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| 900kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | Booster (_____ - ___)
! colspan="3" | Aircraft mass
|-
! rowspan="2" | Number || rowspan="2" | Booster weight (each) || rowspan="2" | Fuel weight (each) || rowspan="2" | Burn time || rowspan="2" | Can be shutdown|| rowspan="2" | Jettisoned after use
! colspan="3" | Mass with full booster fuel (no weapons load)
|-
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| 2 || ___ kg || 40 kg || ___ s || ___ || ___
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | Condition
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Maximum booster thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each booster, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Combined engine & booster thrust @ 0 m|The total thrust produced by all engines and boosters. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="3" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP with booster)
|-
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, belly-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|100/50 kg G.P. (100 kg)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|360/50 kg G.P. (360 kg)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)}}
{{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP|Mk 11 mod 5 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 20 x 100 kg 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 14 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,500 kg total)
* 3 x 360 kg 360/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,080 kg total)
* 5 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,500 kg total)
* 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb (2,000 lb total)
* 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,500 kg total)
* 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb + 2 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,500 kg total)
* 36 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 6 x 100 kg 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (600 kg total)
* 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,500 kg total)
* 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 1 x 360 kg 360/50 kg G.P. bomb (360 kg total)
* 171 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 6 x 100 kg 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (600 kg total)
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,500 kg total)
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 1 x 360 kg 360/50 kg G.P. bomb (360 kg total)
* 3 x 20 mm Mk 11 mod 5 cannons (750 rpg = 2,250 total)

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Excellent turn rate at low speed
* Good veracity of ground striking ornaments
* Twin 30mm DEFA canons will shred any enemy aircraft
* Addition 3x 20mm Mk11 canons

*

'''Cons:'''

* Wings can be ripped off easily at high speed
* No AAM
* No Self-Sealing fuel tanks
* Acceleration rate is limited
* Carrying heavy payload significantly reduced flight performance

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel jet aircraft}}

User talk:U28580205

2021-12-30T20:57:40Z

U101799908: /* Image source */ new section

==Archive==
[[User_talk:U28580205/Archive|Archive]]

== Ozelot's BR should be 9.3 (RB) ==

Hello,

I do not know how to edit the specs card. Maybe you could help me out by editing the specs or telling me how to do it? The Ozelot's BR for realistic battles has changed from 9.0 to 9.3 recently (along the Wiesel 1A2). --[[User:U52143303|U52143303]] ([[User talk:U52143303|talk]]) 16:44, 4 December 2021‎ (UTC)
: Hello. The spec cards are uneditable. Battle ratings will be automatically updated shortly. Please be patient as it may take a few days to roll out. --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 13:05, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

== Image source ==

Greetings Inceptor57!
Thank you for the message you sent me regarding the copyright status.
I will look into photographs that are free to use without copyright.
Thanks for clearing this up and have a great rest of your day/night.
Kind regards -DaSovietMuffin

Mystere IVA (Israel)

2021-12-30T09:53:35Z

U101799908: /* Details */ Engine, and some flight performance stats

{{About
| about = jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Mystere (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=md_454_mystere_4a_iaf
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 26.1 || 27.2 || 26.1 || 27.2 || rowspan="2" | 800
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || ___ || ___ || ___ || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Hispano-Suiza Verdon 350 || 1
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| 950kg || colspan="2" |
{| class="wikitable"
| colspan="2" |Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
|}
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, chin-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|SAMP Type 21 (400 kg)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)|SNEB type 23|T10 151}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (500 kg total)
* 4 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 4 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (1,600 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,500 kg total)
* 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,500 kg total)
* 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (500 kg total)
* 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 4 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 12 x T10 151 rockets (500 kg total)
* 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 12 x T10 151 rockets + 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 93 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (500 kg total)
* 93 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 76 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (500 kg total)
* 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 24 x T10 151 rockets
* 12 x T10 151 rockets + 2 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (500 kg total)
* 12 x T10 151 rockets + 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 93 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 12 x T10 151 rockets

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

*

'''Cons:'''

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{AirManufacturer Dassault}}
{{Israel jet aircraft}}

Kurnass

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{{About
| about = jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = F-4 Phantom II (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=f-4e_iaf
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

This aircraft is almost identical to the American [[F-4E Phantom II]] with little changes like Israeli weapons.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 2,097 || 2,074 || rowspan="2" | 16000 || 26.5 || 27.5 || 160.8 || 151.2 || rowspan="2" | 850
|-
! Upgraded
| 2,202 || 2,140 || 25.5 || 26.0 || 221.6 || 190.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || 463{{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 607 || 584 || 463 || ~11 || ~4
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 810 || < 750 || < 700 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | General Electric J79-GE-17 || 2
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | 408 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel
|-
| 1,750 kg || colspan="2" |
{| class="wikitable"
| colspan="2" |Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
|}
| 15,964kg || 18,027 kg || 20,069 kg || 24,000 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 5,200 kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|M61 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon, chin-mounted (640 rpg)
** 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon (640 rpg) + 90 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)}}
{{main|AGM-62A Walleye I (505 kg)|GBU-15(V)1/B (2,000 lb)|AGM-65B}}
{{main|AIM-7E Sparrow|AIM-7E-2 Sparrow|AIM-9E Sidewinder|AIM-9P Sidewinder}}
{{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP|M61 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 3 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 3,600 total)
* 24 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 16 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 11 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (11,000 lb total)
* 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 285 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 60 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles
* 18 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
* 18 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
* 10 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (7,500 lb total)
* 10 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (7,500 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 3 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 171 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 171 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles
* 36 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 36 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon (1,200 rpg)
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 24 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 16 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 11 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (11,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 18 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 18 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 10 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (7,500 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 10 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (7,500 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 4 x AGM-65B missiles
* 2 x AGM-65B missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AGM-65B missiles + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles
* 4 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs (2,020 kg total)
* 4 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (2,020 kg total)
* 4 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs + 2 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (2,020 kg total)
* 4 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs + 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles (2,020 kg total)
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 4 x 505 kg AGM-62A Walleye I bombs (2,020 kg total)
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon (1,200 rpg)
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 24 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 16 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 11 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (11,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 18 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 18 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 10 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (7,500 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 10 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (7,500 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles + 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb GBU-15(V)1/B bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb GBU-15(V)1/B bombs + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb GBU-15(V)1/B bombs + 2 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb GBU-15(V)1/B bombs + 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb GBU-15(V)1/B bombs + 4 x AIM-7E-2 Sparrow missiles (4,000 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Vast variety of air and ground ornaments
* High top speed
* RWR and Countermeasures
* Can carry up to 8 AAMs
* M61 20mm has long firing range, and high rate of fire
* Good acceleration

*

'''Cons:'''

* Relatively large aircraft, making it easy to hit
* Carrying high payload greatly reduces the flight performance
* 20mm ammo can be depleted in just a few bursts
* Wings can be ripped off quite easily at high speed maneuvers
* Lacking all-aspect missiles
* No look-down radar

*

== History ==

Israel was a prominent user of the [[F-4 Phantom II (Family)|F-4 Phantom II]], having acquired its Phantoms starting in 1968. At first, the USA was unwilling to offer Israel the F-4, but developments in 1967-1968 led the USA to reconsider its position. Notably, a French embargo of Israeli aircraft and the defection of a Soviet MiG-21 convinced the USA to sell its F-4Es to Israel. The first of these aircraft arrived in January of 1968, nicknamed Kurnass (Heavy Hammer) in service.

Israeli Phantoms saw their first combat action in the War of Attrition (1967-1970) against Egypt, where they were used against Egyptian ground and air targets. During this time, more Phantoms continued to be delivered including six RF-4E reconnaissance Phantoms. During the Yom Kippur war, Israeli Phantoms were once again used against air and ground targets. This conflict also marked the debut of the AGM-65 Maverick in Israeli service shortly after the missile entered service with the USAF.

In total, Israeli Phantoms scored ~116 aerial kills against Arab aircraft between 1969-1982 compared to ~55 combat losses (total number disputed). The last Phantom was delivered in 1976, with a total of 204 aircraft delivered, including some as replacements for aircraft lost during the Yom Kippur war. In the last decades of the 20th century, the Phantom was complemented with newer aircraft such as the F-15 and F-16; the last Israeli Phantom was retired in 2004.

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

=== References ===

* Aloni, S. (n.d.). ''Israeli Kurnass Aces – Part 1''. F4Phantom.com. Retrieved December 22, 2021, from <nowiki>http://www.f4phantom.com/SmokeTrails/ST1503_1.pdf</nowiki>
* Jewish Virtual Library. (1998). ''IAF Aircraft Inventory''. McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II. Retrieved December 22, 2021, from <nowiki>https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/mcdonnell-douglas-f-4-phantom-ii</nowiki>
{{AirManufacturer McDonnell}}
{{Israel jet aircraft}}

User talk:U44629479

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== Talk page ==
Hello Colok76286, it will be better for people to use this talk page to contact you and post questions/information as all posts here are immediately viewable and do not require a moderator to approve the message which is necessary on the User page. You can use your user page to annotate areas you are working on (such as the torpedoes) and maybe provide status updates on what you are specifically working on (it's up to you it is your space to work with). Also, using the talk page alerts you when you log back in that someone has left a new message for you, whereas this does not happen with the User Page. Good luck working with the torpedoes, they do need a little love and there is a lot of good information out there about them. -[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 12:21, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

== Award Request images ==
Hello there!
First of all, thank you for all the edits you've been doing thus far on the Wiki.
I was looking through all the past edits in the last month, and noticed all the image work you and Jareel did. Given that many of the requested/missing award images are now up, do you still need the original award images?

Water multistrike--[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: Hello, I don't need the pictures I uploaded anymore. You can totally delete them. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

== Tank mobility ==
Hi! Thank you for your hard work but I basically made all the edits you've done obsolete. The wiki has a database with the tank weights, max speed, and spaded engine horsepowers(you can see them in the sidebar) so I made a template that taps into that and generated everything aside from stock engine power and addon armor weight. If you want to switch to the template then use <nowiki>{{tankMobility|abMinHp= number|rbMinHp= number|}}</nowiki>--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 16:24, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: That's even better. Thanks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 21:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::I don't think anyone has done any major errorchecking on the numbers. So if it's just 1 off like for max speed, I'd give it a pass as a rounding issue. If it's more than that send a message to the wiki admins. In the mean time you can overwrite the numbers with the parameters shown here [[Template:TankMobility]]--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 15:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Wow, great job, congrats on finally managing to add the template to every single tank page! We really appreciate the work you've put in here! - [[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 11:10, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

:There is something weird going on with the tank mobility tables, as they seem to only have stock engine power now and last field says "division by 0". You might want to take a look at this? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 06:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

== Forum profile ==
Hello Colok76286,

Could you please send/give me a link to your war thunder forum profile.

Kindest Regards
Wiki Team
--[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 01:05, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Please see your forum PM o7 --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 23:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

== Indexing ==
Thanks for updating the information regarding the quotation/question mark issue. I did not realize the question marks caused problems with indexing, good to know, I learn something new every day! Thanks! --[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 21:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
: Yes, I tried searching for tables with missing values replaced by ?.??, ??.??, ??? or ???? but the Wiki search engine returned no results. On the other hand, when searching for missing values filled with _.__, __._, __.__, __. ___ or ____, the search results were correct. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 22:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
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== List of images for deletion/modification ==

=== Files for deletion ===
Files deleted --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:50, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Done --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 10:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Next batch deleted. --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 12:34, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

== m60t sabra to m60(family) ==

i added sabra writing to m60(family) can you look what i have done? https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/506818-m60t-aka-sabra-mk-ii [[User:U73853576|U73853576]] ([[User talk:U73853576|talk]]) 09:38, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

== About References and sources; and user-created video guides. ==

Hey there, it has come to my attention that one of the many topics that need some polishing (or filling as we'd call it back in the day) is torpedoes in general: first off, standardizing sources to simply Wikipedia (nowadays it works just well enough!) or rather other kind of military sources? (for example and as many people do, simply source the references with Wikipedia's sources instead of citing Wikipedia itself as the source).
Second, I believe it would be a great addition but rather high-effort to make video demonstrations of torpedo launches on aircraft, but that would need streamlining for the how-to as well (with technicalities such as video format, size, duration, which aircraft to choose in regards to torpedo models that can be used by several different planes, etc etc.); but I would not simply go and do it before a good format to follow. I invite anyone who wants to discuss that matter to my talk page as well: but I hope it is a topic that wants to be discussed. Keep up the good work!
I personally will focus on British torpedo pages for now; simply because it's the nation I personally have the most fleshed out.
--[[User:U47850888|U47850888]] ([[User talk:U47850888|talk]]) 09:28, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

== Torpedoes ==
I will try and create a template for torpedo specs (Explosive mass, speed, etc), will post here for approval or modification (don't worry, I'm very used to waiting for mods to look onto templates) while I note down British torpedoes' stats ingame. --[[User:U47850888|U47850888]] ([[User talk:U47850888|talk]]) 10:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
: Templates for torpedoes already exist: [[WSP Table Templates#Ammunition]], see the table "Torpedo characteristics". Here is an example implemented: [[MTB-1 1 series#Additional armament]] --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

:: Thank you! I should've checked in first: then would be adding it to torpedo pages be okay (as I plan to)? Rather than it belonging only on the vehicle pages, it should be on the torpedo's page as well in my opinion, as for example, it is present on Naval vehicles, but isn't included for Air vehicles (In this case, the MTB-1 uses the [[18 inch Mark XII (450 mm)]] but the other users of the torpedo, such as the [[Beaufighter Mk VIc#Suspended Armament]]).

== Events ==
Thanks for your comprehensive events summary, it's ridiculous this is not official part of the wiki.
Since the content of your Summer event page has not been approved, could you please include the template here also? [[User:U105837429|U105837429]] ([[User talk:U105837429|talk]]) 10:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

== Regarding your recent reversion on "[[F-4C Phantom II]]" ==

You didn't state any reason for the reversion, so I was just looking to see why it was done so it might not happen again. Did you take issue with the performance facts I listed? From my use of the aircraft in game that is the reality of how it performs. If you have it unlocked you could try it out yourself in a test flight (or a match if you want to blow the lions), it really isn't able to climb to its listed altitude or achieve its max speed on arcade, realistic, or simulator.
--[[User:U4885444|U4885444]] ([[User talk:U4885444|talk]]) 04:17, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
:I asked for a 2nd opinion and most of your edits have been approved. Two points to keep in mind for future edits: 1) do not modify table templates and 2) if you find that a plane does not perform like it should historically, please file a bug report. Thank you, --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

== Removal of ammo rack information on the Ka-Chi ==

I noticed you removed the information I filled in on the ammo racks of the Ka-Chi, I'm new to the wiki and I was wondering why you did this. I got the information myself from in-game (although it crashed my computer after I got the numbers on the first one so I decided not to continue), and I'm very confident the information I added on them was correct. Thanks! --[[User:U55492223|U55492223]] ([[User talk:U55492223|talk]]) 14:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
:We don't accept partially filled tables for ammoracks, only fully filled tables. I filled the table and included your remarks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 14:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
::Ah so that is why, thank you! Also I can't believe I didn't notice the ammo rack in the turret being empty when I was getting the information. Thanks again! --[[User:U55492223|U55492223]] ([[User talk:U55492223|talk]]) 19:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

== Undoing changes ==
Hi, I have made many changes for the better in the wiki, but they keep getting undone. I would like to know why.--[[User:U103089390|U103089390]] ([[User talk:U103089390|talk]]) 08:46, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, please send one of the wiki team a PM on the war thunder forums or myself, we will happily explain but we will not disclose any moderation action on a public page. Have a great weekend! --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 13:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

== Image source ==
Hello, Colok76286, sorry I did not get to you earlier. In regards to the question that you had asked me earlier regarding the two images I submitted for addition to the page on the 75 mm M6 cannon, I regret that I do not know where the images came from or what their copyright status is, as they were in a personal folder I had for images regarding the M24 Chaffee. I did a reverse search on the image of the cutaway of the M24 Chaffee's turret and came to this website http://www.m24chaffee.com/. I reverse-searched the other image and did not find anything. I understand the issues with using images with unknown copyright status in different countries and apologize for the inconvenience in dealing with my mistake. Regards, --[[User:U43191476|U43191476]] ([[User talk:U43191476|talk]]) 00:06, 02 October 2021 (UTC)

== Garage Image ==
Hello, dunno where to ask this, but I noticed the ZBD86 garage image is outdated (shows the old bmp1p mod), and I was going to replace it, but I didn't know if I'm supposed to use a stock image or a fully upgraded one as the model changes, can you clarify? Thanks. --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 15:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, you can add 2 garage images (1 stock and 1 with the upgrade) like vehicles with add-on armour ([[Magach 3 (USA)]] for example). --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 15:36, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

== Type 59 copyright status ==
As for your message about the picture posted on the Type 59's page, it's been on my computer for some time, the original image came from a Chinese article on the Type 59 in 2018 or so, I've never seen it before then. Here's the [https://wemp.app/posts/5ae81110-1ec4-4aad-8ae2-40324e270cee page] I found it on, as far back as I could find the image. Sorry for not responding on my page too, I'm not too familiar with using the Wiki beyond editing! --[[User:U37468494|OddPhenomena]]([[User_talk:U37468494|talk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

== Tooltips? ==
Hello, a bit of a weird question, but does WT wiki allow for the use of tooltips, and if so, how do I use them? --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 21:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
:Have you tried [[:Template:Annotation]]? You can see them used in [[M16_MGMC#Ammunition|this page]], under the section Ammunition. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 22:05, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
::Ah, that's exactly what I'm looking for, thanks! --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 22:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

== Type 16 revisions ==

Hello Colok76286, thanks for the revisions on the Type 16, one of the major ones was italicizing in the armor table, I was wondering how you managed to do that as I couldn't figure it out. Also, where did you find the 150 mm plate on the Type 16? I took a look around and couldn't find anything that thick on it using the armor tab in the hangar. Again thanks for the revisions and for any information you can provide. --[[User:U51714322|U51714322]] ([[User talk:U51714322|talk]]) 20:36, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
:If you edit with the Visual Editor, there is an option Italic in the toolbar. If you edit the source, you can create Italic with 2 apostrophe (<nowiki>''</nowiki>) markers at the beginning and the end of the section. For the 150 mm protection, it's the composite screen displayed in orange right under the 5 mm light green section. It is hidden between the 5 mm and the 35 mm sections and you can only display it from the side. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 20:55, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

::Thanks, I honestly don't think I ever would have found that plate, glad you knew about it and added it. --[[User:U51714322|U51714322]] ([[User talk:U51714322|talk]]) 23:20 20 November 2021 (UTC)

== P-51 Family page ==

So I edited the A-26 (Family) page because it was written and laid out really weirdly and rather unprofessionally, especially compared to the other vehicle family pages. I noticed the P-51 (Family) page was the same way, but right at the top there was a comment "Please do not change this page in anyway". So, are those pages protected or something, and I should've just kept them in their current condition? --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 15:43, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

== Image source ==

https://warisboring.com/french-mirage-fighters-turned-israel-into-a-major-air-power/
If I cannot use the image then can you please show me where to find the copyright details? Thanks --[[User:U101799908|U101799908]] ([[User talk:U101799908|talk]]) 03:57, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

== Image source ==

Hi,
This is regarding the image copyright status on the image I uploaded earlier; https://wiki.warthunder.com/File:Israeli_Air_Force_Mirage_IIIC_departing_.jpg
this is the source from where I got the image from https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/29878
If it is copyrighted, please inform me so you or I can do something about it...
Thanks -DaSovietMuffin

Shahak

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{{Specs-Card
|code=mirage_3cj
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 12,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 2,084 || 2,042 || rowspan="2" | 16000{{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.6 || 30.2 || 108.9 || 96.9 || rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
| 2,238 || 2,161 || 28.9 || 29.7 || ||
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| X || X || X ||✓
| X || ✓
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| 1460{{Specs|destruction|body}} || 426{{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || N/A || N/A || ~12 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 920 || < 750 || < 650 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 9B || 1
| colspan="2" | , kg || colspan="2" | 248 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 28m fuel
|-
| 1,333 kg || colspan="2" |
{| class="wikitable"
| colspan="2" |Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
|}
| ,kg || , kg || , kg || kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 28m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552A (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (125 rpg = 250 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|SAMP Type 25 (250 kg)|SAMP Type 21 (400 kg)}}
{{main|AIM-9D Sidewinder|Matra R530|Matra R530E|Shafrir 2}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (500 kg total)
* 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (800 kg total)
* 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (500 kg total)
* 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (800 kg total)
* 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 1 x Matra R530 missile + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 1 x Matra R530E missile
* 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (500 kg total)
* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (800 kg total)
* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Very maneuverable
* Good Air to Air missiles
* 30mm DEFA cannons making it deadly in close encounters
* Self sealing fuel tanks
* Lower BR compared to other Mirage variants

*

'''Cons:'''

* No armor
* Bleeds airspeed fairly quickly while in a steep high G turn.
* No countermeasures
* Limited amount of ground ornaments
* Limited amount of air to air ordainments (3 AAM)

*

== History ==

''The Mirage IIICJ (Shahak) got it's worthiness and respect from many pilots due to the 6 Day-War in 1967 against the surrounding Arab counties. The IAF had carefully accompanied the improvement of the Mirage III. As a personal organization keen to sell its products, Dassault had invited IAF employees to go to its plant and fly the modern plane. With the advent of the [[MiG-21 (Family)|MiG-21]] in Arab inventories, Israel sooner or later set its first order for the Mirage in 1959. While French Mirages had been designed to intercept excessive flying bombers, the Israeli requirement come to be for a tactical fighter-interceptor. Israeli Mirages consequently contained extra gas tanks in preference to the takeoff rocket established in French Mirages, and furthermore contained DEFA cannons. The preliminary order for twenty-four planes came to be widened in 1961 to embody seventy [[Mirage IIICJ]]''

'' Mirages. The first IAF Mirages arrived in Hazor AFB on April seventh 1962 and entered provider with the 101st "first fighter" squadron. In June 1962 the 117th "first jet" squadron at Ramat-David have come to be the second one IAF squadron to characteristic the Mirage and in March 1964 the 119th "Atalef" (Bat) squadron at Tel-Nof started out receiving its plane. The 3 squadrons furthermore operated the double seated variation of the Mirage, the IIIB, which differed from the IIICs via having its interception radar removed. Israel furthermore received photographed reconnaissance (PR) or Mirage IIICJ(R)s which entered provider with the "Atalef" squadron as surveillance aircraft.''

The Mirage IICJ also made history during the 6 Day-war, War or Attrition, and Yom-Kippur War years 1967, 1969-70, and 1973 with Giora Epstein or "Hawkeye" as his nickname. Giora was a natrual born ace, with super human like vision, and downing more than 15 confirmed enemy aircraft and 17 victories.

With the reduction in the number of Mirage at the IAF and the arrival of new fighters, such as the first the [[F-4E Phantom II (Israel)|F-4E Phantom II]] and then the F15 Eagle, the Mirage quickly become irrelevant. The aircraft served the IAF until 1982, until fully retired for good. Later on, the Israeli Air Force (IAF) flew the [[Nesher]], [[Kfir C.7|Kfir]], and later on the F-15 from the US Air Force. Although not in service, the Mirage will forever leave a mark in history as a true legendary fighter.

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

'''Sources used:'''

* www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/dassault-mirage-iiicj-shahak
* www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/29878
*

File:Israeli Air Force Mirage IIIC departing .jpg

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IAF's Mirage fighter jet
(Source: IAF Archive)

User talk:U44629479

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= Talk page =
Hello Colok76286, it will be better for people to use this talk page to contact you and post questions/information as all posts here are immediately viewable and do not require a moderator to approve the message which is necessary on the User page. You can use your user page to annotate areas you are working on (such as the torpedoes) and maybe provide status updates on what you are specifically working on (it's up to you it is your space to work with). Also, using the talk page alerts you when you log back in that someone has left a new message for you, whereas this does not happen with the User Page. Good luck working with the torpedoes, they do need a little love and there is a lot of good information out there about them. -[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 12:21, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

= Award Request images =
Hello there!
First of all, thank you for all the edits you've been doing thus far on the Wiki.
I was looking through all the past edits in the last month, and noticed all the image work you and Jareel did. Given that many of the requested/missing award images are now up, do you still need the original award images?

Water multistrike--[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: Hello, I don't need the pictures I uploaded anymore. You can totally delete them. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

=Tank mobility=
Hi! Thank you for your hard work but I basically made all the edits you've done obsolete. The wiki has a database with the tank weights, max speed, and spaded engine horsepowers(you can see them in the sidebar) so I made a template that taps into that and generated everything aside from stock engine power and addon armor weight. If you want to switch to the template then use <nowiki>{{tankMobility|abMinHp= number|rbMinHp= number|}}</nowiki>--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 16:24, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: That's even better. Thanks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 21:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::I don't think anyone has done any major errorchecking on the numbers. So if it's just 1 off like for max speed, I'd give it a pass as a rounding issue. If it's more than that send a message to the wiki admins. In the mean time you can overwrite the numbers with the parameters shown here [[Template:TankMobility]]--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 15:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Wow, great job, congrats on finally managing to add the template to every single tank page! We really appreciate the work you've put in here! - [[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 11:10, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

:There is something weird going on with the tank mobility tables, as they seem to only have stock engine power now and last field says "division by 0". You might want to take a look at this? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 06:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

= Forum profile =
Hello Colok76286,

Could you please send/give me a link to your war thunder forum profile.

Kindest Regards
Wiki Team
--[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 01:05, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Please see your forum PM o7 --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 23:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

= Indexing =
Thanks for updating the information regarding the quotation/question mark issue. I did not realize the question marks caused problems with indexing, good to know, I learn something new every day! Thanks! --[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 21:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
: Yes, I tried searching for tables with missing values replaced by ?.??, ??.??, ??? or ???? but the Wiki search engine returned no results. On the other hand, when searching for missing values filled with _.__, __._, __.__, __. ___ or ____, the search results were correct. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 22:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
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= List of images for deletion/modification =

== Files for deletion ==
Files deleted --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:50, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Done --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 10:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

;Other images
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<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Ammoracks M4 Hybrid (Italy).png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Soviet IS-2.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Chinese IS-2.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Soviet IS-2 (fully modified).png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Soviet Options.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Chinese Options.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:C13 T90 ammorack.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:VAB.1.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:VAB.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Vab Albi 01.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:WZ551 Sri Lanka.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
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= m60t sabra to m60(family) =

i added sabra writing to m60(family) can you look what i have done? https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/506818-m60t-aka-sabra-mk-ii [[User:U73853576|U73853576]] ([[User talk:U73853576|talk]]) 09:38, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

= About References and sources; and user-created video guides. =

Hey there, it has come to my attention that one of the many topics that need some polishing (or filling as we'd call it back in the day) is torpedoes in general: first off, standardizing sources to simply Wikipedia (nowadays it works just well enough!) or rather other kind of military sources? (for example and as many people do, simply source the references with Wikipedia's sources instead of citing Wikipedia itself as the source).
Second, I believe it would be a great addition but rather high-effort to make video demonstrations of torpedo launches on aircraft, but that would need streamlining for the how-to as well (with technicalities such as video format, size, duration, which aircraft to choose in regards to torpedo models that can be used by several different planes, etc etc.); but I would not simply go and do it before a good format to follow. I invite anyone who wants to discuss that matter to my talk page as well: but I hope it is a topic that wants to be discussed. Keep up the good work!
I personally will focus on British torpedo pages for now; simply because it's the nation I personally have the most fleshed out.
--[[User:U47850888|U47850888]] ([[User talk:U47850888|talk]]) 09:28, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

= Torpedoes =
I will try and create a template for torpedo specs (Explosive mass, speed, etc), will post here for approval or modification (don't worry, I'm very used to waiting for mods to look onto templates) while I note down British torpedoes' stats ingame. --[[User:U47850888|U47850888]] ([[User talk:U47850888|talk]]) 10:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
: Templates for torpedoes already exist: [[WSP Table Templates#Ammunition]], see the table "Torpedo characteristics". Here is an example implemented: [[MTB-1 1 series#Additional armament]] --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

:: Thank you! I should've checked in first: then would be adding it to torpedo pages be okay (as I plan to)? Rather than it belonging only on the vehicle pages, it should be on the torpedo's page as well in my opinion, as for example, it is present on Naval vehicles, but isn't included for Air vehicles (In this case, the MTB-1 uses the [[18 inch Mark XII (450 mm)]] but the other users of the torpedo, such as the [[Beaufighter Mk VIc#Suspended Armament]]).

= Events =
Thanks for your comprehensive events summary, it's ridiculous this is not official part of the wiki.
Since the content of your Summer event page has not been approved, could you please include the template here also? [[User:U105837429|U105837429]] ([[User talk:U105837429|talk]]) 10:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

= Regarding your recent reversion on "[[F-4C Phantom II]]" =

You didn't state any reason for the reversion, so I was just looking to see why it was done so it might not happen again. Did you take issue with the performance facts I listed? From my use of the aircraft in game that is the reality of how it performs. If you have it unlocked you could try it out yourself in a test flight (or a match if you want to blow the lions), it really isn't able to climb to its listed altitude or achieve its max speed on arcade, realistic, or simulator.
--[[User:U4885444|U4885444]] ([[User talk:U4885444|talk]]) 04:17, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
:I asked for a 2nd opinion and most of your edits have been approved. Two points to keep in mind for future edits: 1) do not modify table templates and 2) if you find that a plane does not perform like it should historically, please file a bug report. Thank you,
--[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

= Removal of ammo rack information on the Ka-Chi =

I noticed you removed the information I filled in on the ammo racks of the Ka-Chi, I'm new to the wiki and I was wondering why you did this. I got the information myself from in-game (although it crashed my computer after I got the numbers on the first one so I decided not to continue), and I'm very confident the information I added on them was correct. Thanks! --[[User:U55492223|U55492223]] ([[User talk:U55492223|talk]]) 14:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
:We don't accept partially filled tables for ammoracks, only fully filled tables. I filled the table and included your remarks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 14:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
::Ah so that is why, thank you! Also I can't believe I didn't notice the ammo rack in the turret being empty when I was getting the information. Thanks again! --[[User:U55492223|U55492223]] ([[User talk:U55492223|talk]]) 19:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

= Undoing changes =
Hi, I have made many changes for the better in the wiki, but they keep getting undone. I would like to know why.--[[User:U103089390|U103089390]] ([[User talk:U103089390|talk]]) 08:46, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, please send one of the wiki team a PM on the war thunder forums or myself, we will happily explain but we will not disclose any moderation action on a public page. Have a great weekend! --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 13:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

= Image source =
Hello, Colok76286, sorry I did not get to you earlier. In regards to the question that you had asked me earlier regarding the two images I submitted for addition to the page on the 75 mm M6 cannon, I regret that I do not know where the images came from or what their copyright status is, as they were in a personal folder I had for images regarding the M24 Chaffee. I did a reverse search on the image of the cutaway of the M24 Chaffee's turret and came to this website http://www.m24chaffee.com/. I reverse-searched the other image and did not find anything. I understand the issues with using images with unknown copyright status in different countries and apologize for the inconvenience in dealing with my mistake. Regards, --[[User:U43191476|U43191476]] ([[User talk:U43191476|talk]]) 00:06, 02 October 2021 (UTC)

= Garage Image =
Hello, dunno where to ask this, but I noticed the ZBD86 garage image is outdated (shows the old bmp1p mod), and I was going to replace it, but I didn't know if I'm supposed to use a stock image or a fully upgraded one as the model changes, can you clarify? Thanks. --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 15:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, you can add 2 garage images (1 stock and 1 with the upgrade) like vehicles with add-on armour ([[Magach 3 (USA)]] for example). --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 15:36, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

= Type 59 copyright status =
As for your message about the picture posted on the Type 59's page, it's been on my computer for some time, the original image came from a Chinese article on the Type 59 in 2018 or so, I've never seen it before then. Here's the [https://wemp.app/posts/5ae81110-1ec4-4aad-8ae2-40324e270cee page] I found it on, as far back as I could find the image. Sorry for not responding on my page too, I'm not too familiar with using the Wiki beyond editing! --[[User:U37468494|OddPhenomena]]([[User_talk:U37468494|talk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

= Tooltips? =
Hello, a bit of a weird question, but does WT wiki allow for the use of tooltips, and if so, how do I use them? --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 21:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
:Have you tried [[:Template:Annotation]]? You can see them used in [[M16_MGMC#Ammunition|this page]], under the section Ammunition. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 22:05, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
::Ah, that's exactly what I'm looking for, thanks! --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 22:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

= Type 16 revisions =

Hello Colok76286, thanks for the revisions on the Type 16, one of the major ones was italicizing in the armor table, I was wondering how you managed to do that as I couldn't figure it out. Also, where did you find the 150 mm plate on the Type 16? I took a look around and couldn't find anything that thick on it using the armor tab in the hangar. Again thanks for the revisions and for any information you can provide. --[[User:U51714322|U51714322]] ([[User talk:U51714322|talk]]) 20:36, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
:If you edit with the Visual Editor, there is an option Italic in the toolbar. If you edit the source, you can create Italic with 2 apostrophe (<nowiki>''</nowiki>) markers at the beginning and the end of the section. For the 150 mm protection, it's the composite screen displayed in orange right under the 5 mm light green section. It is hidden between the 5 mm and the 35 mm sections and you can only display it from the side. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 20:55, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

::Thanks, I honestly don't think I ever would have found that plate, glad you knew about it and added it. --[[User:U51714322|U51714322]] ([[User talk:U51714322|talk]]) 23:20 20 November 2021 (UTC)

== P-51 Family page ==

So I edited the A-26 (Family) page because it was written and laid out really weirdly and rather unprofessionally, especially compared to the other vehicle family pages. I noticed the P-51 (Family) page was the same way, but right at the top there was a comment "Please do not change this page in anyway". So, are those pages protected or something, and I should've just kept them in their current condition? --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 15:43, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

== Image source ==

https://warisboring.com/french-mirage-fighters-turned-israel-into-a-major-air-power/
If I cannot use the image then can you please show me where to find the copyright details? Thanks -DaSovietMuffin

User talk:U101799908

2021-12-21T03:54:58Z

U101799908: /* Image source */

= Image source =
Please let us know what is the copyright status of the image you uploaded: [[:File:Nesher526.jpg]]. Thank you, --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 21:43, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

https://warisboring.com/french-mirage-fighters-turned-israel-into-a-major-air-power/ -DaSovietMuffin

User talk:U101799908

2021-12-21T03:51:40Z

U101799908: /* Image source */

Kfir C.7

2021-12-19T07:37:37Z

U101799908: /* Details */ worked on engine, and pros/cons ~ will continue tomorrow it is 23:00 for me

{{Specs-Card
|code=kfir_c7
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| X ||X||X|| ✓ ||X|| ✓
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || N/A || N/A || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | Basic mass || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | General Electric J79-GE-J1E || 1
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| 1750 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552A (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (125 rpg = 250 total)
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons (125 rpg = 250 total) + 32 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)}}
{{main|AIM-9D Sidewinder|AIM-9G Sidewinder|Shafrir 2}}
{{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP|M61 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 4 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (8,000 lb total)
* 16 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (8,000 lb total)
* 16 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (8,000 lb total)
* 16 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (8,000 lb total)
* 10 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x Shafrir 2 missiles (5,000 lb total)
* 10 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (5,000 lb total)
* 10 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (5,000 lb total)
* 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (9,000 lb total)
* 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (9,000 lb total)
* 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
* 9 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (9,000 lb total)
* 5 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x Shafrir 2 missiles (5,000 lb total)
* 5 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (5,000 lb total)
* 5 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (5,000 lb total)
* 10 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (7,500 lb total)
* 10 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,500 lb total)
* 10 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,500 lb total)
* 10 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,500 lb total)
* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,500 lb total)
* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
* 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 10 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets (5,000 lb total)
* 10 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (5,000 lb total)
* 10 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (5,000 lb total)
* 10 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 24 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (5,000 lb total)
* 10 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets (5,000 lb total)
* 10 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (5,000 lb total)
* 10 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (5,000 lb total)
* 10 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (5,000 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Great flight dynamics and characteristics
* Highly maneuverable
* Great acceleration
* Extremely fast
* Large variety of weapons
* Can carry additional 2x 20mm Vulcan canons

*

'''Cons:'''

* Bleeds airspeed fairly quickly while in a steep high G turn
* Only 4 AAMs
* No radar guided ornaments
* Limited amount of countermeasures
* No armor

*

== History ==


=== [[wt:en/news/7466-development-kfir-c-7-the-sharp-clawed-lion-cub-en|Devblog]]: ===
Immediately after the Six-Day-War, France imposed an arms export embargo on Israel, acutely highlighting the nation’s dependence on foreign suppliers of military equipment. Despite the embargo, Israel managed to obtain documentation for the Mirage 5J version, which was developed specifically for the Israeli Air Force before the ban. These aircraft were produced commercially under the name IAI Nesher. But due to the end of supplies from France, Israel turned to the U.S. for assistance, procuring a number of new F-4 Phantom II and A-4 Skyhawk aircraft for its air force. However, when the air force compared the Nesher with the new F-4 Phantom, it realized that the Mirage was falling behind in several aspects. Therefore, plans to outfit Neshers with licence-built Phantom II engines - the General Electric J79 - were drawn up and soon afterward realized with the Kfir (Hebrew for “Lion Cub”).

Entering serial production in 1975 and subsequently being commissioned into service with the 101st, 113th and 109th squadrons of the Israeli Air Force, the Kfir first saw combat action in November 1977. While the aircraft performed well and was also well-liked by its pilots, the modification did increase the weight of the aircraft, negatively impacting some of its flight characteristics. Israeli engineers solved the issue by outfitting the Kfir with fixed canards on the forward section of the fuselage.

The Kfir C.7 is a later modification of the aircraft, resulting from continuous efforts of Israeli engineers to further develop the Kfir. The new version featured numerous improvements, including a more powerful afterburner, increased payload and weapon selection as well as new avionics and cockpit arrangement. The Kfir C.7 entered service in 1983 and would remain in active service until the early 1990’s before being officially decommissioned by the Israeli Air Force. Subsequently, some units were sold on the export market to Columbia and Sri Lanka where they saw active combat during the Sri Lankan Civil War.

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==


* [[Nesher]]
* [[Mirage 5F]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7466-development-kfir-c-7-the-sharp-clawed-lion-cub-en|[Devblog] Kfir C.7: The Sharp-Clawed Lion Cub]]

{{AirManufacturer IAI}}
{{Israel jet aircraft}}

Nesher

2021-12-19T02:12:04Z

U101799908: /* Survivability and armour */ fixed minor grammar problems

{{Specs-Card
|code=nesher
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.5 || 30.6 || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || 26.7 || 28.0 || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| X || X || X || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || ___ || ___ || ___ || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 920 || < 750 || < 650 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 9C || 1
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| 1,450 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

The Nesher has no armour and can be critically damaged with just one short burst of enemy aircraft's fire. If the Nesher has survived the enemy gunfire, it will be highly damaged and even some major components like the elevator, and or aileron controls can get destroyed. The Nesher has self-sealing fuel tanks located on the rear, front part of the wings, and the forward fuselage.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552A (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (125 rpg = 250 total)

The twin 30 mm are a great tool to use for intercepting close range enemy aircraft. The 30 mm are also mounted centrally, making it easier to aim without having to level out your wings to fire. The DEFA 30 mm will make short work of any aircraft attempting to dogfight, though their slow velocity and rate of fire can make it difficult to hit the target.

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)}}
{{main|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|FFAR Mighty Mouse|Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP|M61 (20 mm)}}
{{main|AIM-9D Sidewinder|AIM-9G Sidewinder|Shafrir 2}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)

'''Shafrir 2'''

The Shafrir 2 has short range and low G overload, similar to the Shafrir or AIM-9B. It is best used from behind enemy lines, against unaware and non-manoeuvring targets.

'''AIM-9D'''

The AIM-9D is a much better missile compared to the Shafrir 2. Not only does it have much more range, it also turns better with a higher G overload, though it is still highly attracted to flares. Its improved capabilities allow it to be used a bit more aggressively compared to the Shafrir 2.

'''AIM-9G'''

Although it has less explosive mass than the AIM-9D, the upgraded seeker of the AIM-9G makes target tracking easier, as well as having a larger lock angle, lack of G-load limit when launching, and the ability to slave the seeker to a radar lock. It retains the same excellent range and manoeuvrability of the AIM-9D, along with similar susceptibility to flares.

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Upgraded engine to other Mirage variants
* Good turn rate making it very maneuverable
* Decent variety of ground ordnance
* Able to carry 2 x 20 mm M61 Vulcan gunpods

'''Cons:'''

* No armour
* No countermeasures or RWR
* Bleeds a lot of speed in turn fighting, or high angles of attack
* Can only 2 AAMs

== History ==


The IAI Nesher is a multi-role jet aircraft made and produced by Israeli Aircraft Industries as a modified Dassault Mirage 5. After suffering air losses during the Six-Day War and the War of Attrition in the late 1960s, Israel was seeking to develop a new multi-role capable jet aircraft. Before the war, Israel began co-development with Dassault Aviation in France to build the Mirage 5, and it was eventually built by Israel and named Nesher (Hebrew: נשר). In January 1969, the French authorities embargoed Israel due to the raid on Lebanon, which prevented delivery of the first 30 Mirage 5 aircraft which had already been paid for by Israel. The raid also caused the French to stop aiding the Israelis on their current [[Mirage IIICJ]] fleet. This was a setback for Israel prompting them to continue development of the Nesher on their own with the help of some Swiss engineers who had the technical specifications of the Mirage 5.

Production started in 1969 on the first empty airframes with no weapons, electronics, seat, or engine included, delivered without delay from Dassault Aviation. The first 'Raam A' was once delivered in May 1971. In November of 1971, the newly modified aircraft was renamed Nesher. The new Nesher's airframe was almost identical to the Mirage 5, but fitted with Israeli avionics, improved range and a wider range of AAMs, and an ejection seat. The much simpler avionics made it somewhat easier to fly for many new aviators. The Nesher was slightly less manoeuvrable than the [[Mirage IIICJ]], but it had a larger payload and longer range. The reduced manoeuvrability did not stop the Nesher from excelling in the Yom Kippur War of 1973 downing more than 100 enemy aircraft in the war proving the Nesher a true killer aircraft.

51 Neshers were built, and 10 two-seat trainer aircraft were also built. Production stopped in 1974, for the Israelis to build their next air superiority fighter, the [[Kfir C.7]]. The Nesher was later retired from the Israeli Air Force in 1977. After a good lifetime serving the Israeli Air Force, many Neshers were refurbished, and sold to Argentina, and operated in their air force, later renaming it the "Dagger" and not retiring them until 2015.

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{AirManufacturer IAI}}
{{Israel jet aircraft}}

Nesher

2021-12-18T00:44:59Z

U101799908: /* Details */

{{Specs-Card
|code=nesher
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} ||29.5|| 30.6 || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ ||26.7|| 28.0 || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
|X||X||X|| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || ___ || ___ || ___ || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 920 || < 750 || < 650 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 9C ||1
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| 1,450 kg || colspan="2" |
{| class="wikitable"
| colspan="2" |Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
|}
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''The Nesher has no armor and can be critically damaged with just one shot burst of an enemy aircraft fire. If the aircraft has survived the enemy gunfire, it will be very highly damaged and even some major components like the elevator, and or aileron controls can get destroyed. The Nesher has self-sealing fuel tanks located on the rear and front part of the wings, and the forward fuselage.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552A (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (125 rpg = 250 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)}}
{{main|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|FFAR Mighty Mouse|Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP|M61 (20 mm)}}
{{main|AIM-9D Sidewinder|AIM-9G Sidewinder|Shafrir 2}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==

''The Nesher is a good multi-role ground striking aircraft, making it formattable in both ground battles, and air battles due to its large ground striking ornaments with a large variate of bombs, rockets, and even air to air missiles. You can also bring a payload of bombs in an Air Battle match to destroy enemy bases, vehicles, and airfields.''

'''Attacking with the DEFA 30mm'''

The twin 30mm are a great tool to use for intercepting close range enemy aircraft. The 30mm are also mounted on the nose of the Nesher, making it easier to aim without having to level out your wings to fire. The DEFA 30mm will do short work of any aircraft attempting to dogfight. The stock grind to the Shafrir

'''Attacking with the Shafrir 2, AIM-9D, and AIM-9G'''

'''Shafrir 2'''

Starting off with the Shafrir 2, you will have to play it like an AIM-9B as it has short range, and low G overload. You do not get any stock missiles to start off, and you will have to get 1 modification for Tier I in order to research the Shafrir. You can fly around the map and behind enemy aircraft lines to fire at unexpected aircraft not knowing your position.

'''AIM-9D'''

Congratulations! You made it out from the suffer zone, and got the AIM-9D. The AIM-9D is a much better missile compared to the Shafrir 2. Not only does the newer AIM-9D have more range, it also turns better, it has a higher G overload. Now with the AIM-9D you can start playing more aggressive into ground-zero where most of the enemies will be. Flying with the AIM-9D gives you more flexibility to get more kills and getting the top missile for the Nesher, but it is highly attractive to flares.

'''AIM-9G'''

Welcome to the top modifications of the Nesher. The AIM-9G lets you do more. Although less explosive mass, it has an upgraded seeker. Some even see the AIM-9G as a downgrade from the AIM-9D of its low explosive mass, and sometimes not even shooting down the enemy aircraft in one shot. The AIM-9G also has Improved acquisition seeker making target tracking easier, and a bigger firing circle making it easy to aim at enemy aircraft at a sharp angle from you.

All in all, the stock grind with the Nesher will go by quickly if you know how the Mirage works and flies.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Decent variety of ground capable ornaments
* Upgraded engine to other Mirage variants
* Good turn rate making it very maneuverable
* 2x Nose mounted 30mm making it easier to aim
* Additional 2x 20mm M61 Vulcan canons

'''Cons:'''

* No armor
* No countermeasures or RWR
* Bleeds a lot of speed in turn fighting, or high angles of attack
* Only 2 AAM at high tier

*

== History ==

''The IAI Nesher is a multi-role jet aircraft made and produced by Israeli Aircraft Industries as a modified Dassault Mirage 5. After suffering air losses during the Six-Day War, and the War of Attrition in the late 1960s, Israel was seeking to develop a new multi-role capable jet aircraft. Before the war, Israel began co-development with Dassault Aviation in France to build the Mirage 5, and it was eventually built by Israel and named Nesher (Hebrew: נשר). In January 1969, the French authorities hands embargo on Israel due to the raid on Lebanon avoided the first 30 Mirage 5 aircraft which have been already paid for by Israel. The raid also caused the French to stop aiding the Israelis on their current [[Mirage IIICJ]] fleet. This was a setback for Israel prompting them to continue development on the Nesher on their own with the help of some Swiss engineers who had the technical specifications of the Mirage 5.''

''Production started in 1969 on the first empty airframes with no weapons, electronics, seat, or engine included, delivered without delay from Dassault Aviation. The first 'Raam A' was once delivered in May 1971. In November of 1971, the newly modified aircraft was renamed Nesher. The new Nesher's airframe was almost identical to the Mirage 5, but fitted with Israeli avionics, improved range and a wider range of AAMs, and an ejection seat. The much simpler avionics made it somewhat easier to fly for many new aviators. The Nesher was slightly less maneuverable than the [[Mirage IIICJ]], but it had a larger payload and longer range. The reduced maneuverability did not stop the Nesher from exceeding in the Yom Kippur War of 1973 downing more than 100 enemy aircraft in the war proving the Nesher a true killer aircraft.''
[[File:Nesher526.jpg|border|right|frameless|500x500px|An IAI Nesher flying over the Sinai.]]
''51 Nesher's were built, and 10 two-seat trainer aircraft were also built. Production stopped in 1974, for the Israelis to build their next air superiority fighter, the Kifir (Lion Cub) or Kifir C.7. The Nesher was later retired from the Israeli Air Force in 1977. After a good lifetime serving the Israeli Air Force, many Nesher's were refurbished, and sold to Argentina, and operate in their air force, later renaming it the "Dagger" and not retiring them until 2015.''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel jet aircraft}}
__NEWSECTIONLINK__

Nesher

2021-12-17T21:27:08Z

U101799908: /* History */ First development of the Nesher, reasons why of the Nesher, modifications of Mirage, arms embargo, how many were also built, short summary of export Nesher to Argentina, 'Dagger'

{{Specs-Card
|code=nesher
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | ___
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| _ || _ || _ || _ || _ || _ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || ___ || ___ || ___ || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | _____ || _
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| ___ kg || colspan="2" | ___
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552A (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (125 rpg = 250 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)}}
{{main|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|FFAR Mighty Mouse|Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP|M61 (20 mm)}}
{{main|AIM-9D Sidewinder|AIM-9G Sidewinder|Shafrir 2}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

*

'''Cons:'''

*

== History ==

''The IAI Nesher is a multi-role jet aircraft made and produced by Israeli Aircraft Industries as a modified Dassault Mirage 5. After suffering air losses during the Six-Day War, and the War of Attrition in the late 1960s, Israel was seeking to develop a new multi-role capable jet aircraft. Before the war, Israel began co-development with Dassault Aviation in France to build the Mirage 5, and it was eventually built by Israel and named Nesher (Hebrew: נשר). In January 1969, the French authorities hands embargo on Israel due to the raid on Lebanon avoided the first 30 Mirage 5 aircraft which have been already paid for by Israel. The raid also caused the French to stop aiding the Israelis on their current [[Mirage IIICJ]] fleet. This was a setback for Israel prompting them to continue development on the Nesher on their own with the help of some Swiss engineers who had the technical specifications of the Mirage 5.''

''Production started in 1969 on the first empty airframes with no weapons, electronics, seat, or engine included, delivered without delay from Dassault Aviation. The first 'Raam A' was once delivered in May 1971. In November of 1971, the newly modified aircraft was renamed Nesher. The new Nesher's airframe was almost identical to the Mirage 5, but fitted with Israeli avionics, improved range and a wider range of AAMs, and an ejection seat. The much simpler avionics made it somewhat easier to fly for many new aviators. The Nesher was slightly less maneuverable than the [[Mirage IIICJ]], but it had a larger payload and longer range. The reduced maneuverability did not stop the Nesher from exceeding in the Yom Kippur War of 1973 downing more than 100 enemy aircraft in the war proving the Nesher a true killer aircraft.''
[[File:Nesher526.jpg|border|right|frameless|500x500px|An IAI Nesher flying over the Sinai.]]
''51 Nesher's were built, and 10 two-seat trainer aircraft were also built. Production stopped in 1974, for the Israelis to build their next air superiority fighter, the Kifir (Lion Cub) or Kifir C.7. The Nesher was later retired from the Israeli Air Force in 1977. After a good lifetime serving the Israeli Air Force, many Nesher's were refurbished, and sold to Argentina, and operate in their air force, later renaming it the "Dagger" and not retiring them until 2015!''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel jet aircraft}}

Nesher

2021-12-17T21:09:51Z

U101799908: /* History */

{{Specs-Card
|code=nesher
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | ___
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| _ || _ || _ || _ || _ || _ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || ___ || ___ || ___ || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | _____ || _
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| ___ kg || colspan="2" | ___
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552A (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (125 rpg = 250 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)}}
{{main|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|FFAR Mighty Mouse|Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP|M61 (20 mm)}}
{{main|AIM-9D Sidewinder|AIM-9G Sidewinder|Shafrir 2}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

*

'''Cons:'''

*

== History ==

''The IAI Nesher is a multi-role jet aircraft made and produced by Israeli Aircraft Industries as a modified Dassault Mirage 5. After suffering air losses during the Six-Day War, and the War of Attrition in the late 1960s, Israel was seeking to develop a new multi-role capable jet aircraft. Before the war, Israel began co-development with Dassault Aviation in France to build the Mirage 5, and it was eventually built by Israel and named Nesher (Hebrew: נשר). In January 1969, the French authorities hands embargo on Israel due to the raid on Lebanon avoided the first 30 Mirage 5 aircraft which have been already paid for by Israel. The raid also caused the French to stop aiding the Israelis on their current [[Mirage IIICJ]] fleet. This was a setback for Israel prompting them to continue development on the Nesher on their own with the help of some Swiss engineers who had the technical specifications of the Mirage 5.''

''Production started in 1969 on the first empty airframes with no weapons, electronics, seat, or engine included, delivered without delay from Dassault Aviation. The first 'Raam A' was once delivered in May 1971. In November of 1971, the newly modified aircraft was renamed Nesher. The new Nesher's airframe was almost identical to the Mirage 5, but fitted with Israeli avionics, improved range and a wider range of AAMs, and an ejection seat. The much simpler avionics made it somewhat easier to fly for many new aviators. The Nesher was slightly less maneuverable than the [[Mirage IIICJ]], but it had a larger payload and longer range. The reduced maneuverability did not stop the Nesher from exceeding in the Yom Kippur War of 1973 downing more than 100 enemy aircraft in the war proving the Nesher a true killer aircraft.''
[[File:Nesher526.jpg|frame|441x441px|An IAI Nesher '526' flying over the Sinai]]
''51 Nesher's were built, and 10 two-seat trainer aircraft were also built. Production stopped in 1974, for the Israelis to build their next air superiority fighter, the Kifir (Lion Cub) or Kifir C.7. The Nesher was later retired from the Israeli Air Force in 1977. After a good lifetime serving the Israeli Air Force, many Nesher's were refurbished, and sold to Argentina, and operate in their air force, later renaming it the "Dagger" and not retiring them until 2015!''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel jet aircraft}}

Nesher

2021-12-17T21:08:54Z

U101799908: /* History */

{{Specs-Card
|code=nesher
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | ___
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| _ || _ || _ || _ || _ || _ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || ___ || ___ || ___ || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | _____ || _
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| ___ kg || colspan="2" | ___
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552A (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (125 rpg = 250 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)}}
{{main|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|FFAR Mighty Mouse|Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP|M61 (20 mm)}}
{{main|AIM-9D Sidewinder|AIM-9G Sidewinder|Shafrir 2}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

*

'''Cons:'''

*

== History ==

''The IAI Nesher is a multi-role jet aircraft made and produced by Israeli Aircraft Industries as a modified Dassault Mirage 5. After suffering air losses during the Six-Day War, and the War of Attrition in the late 1960s, Israel was seeking to develop a new multi-role capable jet aircraft. Before the war, Israel began co-development with Dassault Aviation in France to build the Mirage 5, and it was eventually built by Israel and named Nesher (Hebrew: נשר). In January 1969, the French authorities hands embargo on Israel due to the raid on Lebanon avoided the first 30 Mirage 5 aircraft which have been already paid for by Israel. The raid also caused the French to stop aiding the Israelis on their current [[Mirage IIICJ]] fleet. This was a setback for Israel prompting them to continue development on the Nesher on their own with the help of some Swiss engineers who had the technical specifications of the Mirage 5.''

''Production started in 1969 on the first empty airframes with no weapons, electronics, seat, or engine included, delivered without delay from Dassault Aviation. The first 'Raam A' was once delivered in May 1971. In November of 1971, the newly modified aircraft was renamed Nesher. The new Nesher's airframe was almost identical to the Mirage 5, but fitted with Israeli avionics, improved range and a wider range of AAMs, and an ejection seat. The much simpler avionics made it somewhat easier to fly for many new aviators. The Nesher was slightly less maneuverable than the [[Mirage IIICJ]], but it had a larger payload and longer range. The reduced maneuverability did not stop the Nesher from exceeding in the Yom Kippur War of 1973 downing more than 100 enemy aircraft in the war proving the Nesher a true killer aircraft.''
[[File:Nesher526.jpg|frame|441x441px|An IAI Nesher '526' flying over the Sinai]]
''51 Nesher's were built, and 10 two-seat trainer aircraft were also built. Production stopped in 1974, for the Israelis to build their next air superiority fighter, the Kifir (Lion Cub) or Kifir C.7. The Nesher was later retired from the Israeli Air Force in 1977. After a good lifetime serving the Israeli Air Force, many Nesher's were refurbished, and sold to Argentina, and operate in their air force, later renaming it the "Dagger" and not retiring them until 2015!''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel jet aircraft}}

Nesher

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U101799908: /* History */

{{Specs-Card
|code=nesher
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | ___
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| _ || _ || _ || _ || _ || _ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || ___ || ___ || ___ || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | _____ || _
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| ___ kg || colspan="2" | ___
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552A (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (125 rpg = 250 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)}}
{{main|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|FFAR Mighty Mouse|Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP|M61 (20 mm)}}
{{main|AIM-9D Sidewinder|AIM-9G Sidewinder|Shafrir 2}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (7,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg 500/50 kg G.P. bombs + 6 x 250 kg 250/50 kg G.P. bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (2,500 kg total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 8 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

*

'''Cons:'''

*

== History ==

''The IAI Nesher is a multi-role jet aircraft made and produced by Israeli Aircraft Industries as a modified Dassault Mirage 5. After suffering air losses during the Six-Day War, and the War of Attrition in the late 1960s, Israel was seeking to develop a new multi-role capable jet aircraft. Before the war, Israel began co-development with Dassault Aviation in France to build the Mirage 5, and it was eventually built by Israel and named Nesher (Hebrew: נשר). In January 1969, the French authorities hands embargo on Israel due to the raid on Lebanon avoided the first 30 Mirage 5 aircraft which have been already paid for by Israel. The raid also caused the French to stop aiding the Israelis on their current [[Mirage IIICJ]] fleet. This was a setback for Israel prompting them to continue development on the Nesher on their own with the help of some Swiss engineers who had the technical specifications of the Mirage 5.''

''Production started in 1969 on the first empty airframes with no weapons, electronics, seat, or engine included, delivered without delay from Dassault Aviation. The first 'Raam A' was once delivered in May 1971. In November of 1971, the newly modified aircraft was renamed Nesher. The new Nesher's airframe was almost identical to the Mirage 5, but fitted with Israeli avionics, improved range and a wider range of AAMs, and an ejection seat. The much simpler avionics made it somewhat easier to fly for many new aviators. The Nesher was slightly less maneuverable than the [[Mirage IIICJ]], but it had a larger payload and longer range. The reduced maneuverability did not stop the Nesher from exceeding in the Yom Kippur War of 1973 downing more than 100 enemy aircraft in the war proving the Nesher a true killer aircraft.''
[[File:Nesher526.jpg|frame|420x420px|An IAI Nesher '526' flying over the Sinai]]
''51 Nesher's were built, and 10 two-seat trainer aircraft were also built. Production stopped in 1974, for the Israelis to build their next air superiority fighter, the Kifir (Lion Cub) or Kifir C.7. The Nesher was later retired from the Israeli Air Force in 1977. After a good lifetime serving the Israeli Air Force, many Nesher's were refurbished, and sold to Argentina, and operate in their air force, later renaming it the "Dagger" and not retiring them until 2015!''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel jet aircraft}}

File:IAI Nesher.jpg

2021-12-17T19:49:44Z

U101799908: IAI Nesher flown by Giora Epstein, one of the greatest supersonic aces making history during the Yom-Kippur War of 1973

IAI Nesher flown by Giora Epstein, one of the greatest supersonic aces making history during the Yom-Kippur War of 1973